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Topic Title: Holder Claims Emails Using Words 'Fast and Furious' Don't Refer to Operation 'Fast and Furious'
Topic Summary: Just how dumb does this man think the American people are?
Created On: 06/08/2012 05:13 AM
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 06/08/2012 05:13 AM
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B4UAccuseMe

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Holder Claims Emails Using Words 'Fast and Furious' Don't Refer to Operation 'Fast and Furious'

 Attorney General Eric Holder claimed during congressional testimony today that internal Justice Department emails that use the phrase “Fast and Furious” do not refer to the controversial gun-walking operation Fast and Furious.

Under questioning from Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), who read excerpts of the emails at a House Judiciary Committee hearing on Justice Department oversight, Holder claimed that the phrase “Fast and Furious” did not refer to Fast and Furious but instead referred to another gun-walking operation known as “Wide Receiver.”

However, the emails refer to both programs -- "Fast and Furious" and the "Tucson case," from where Wide Receiver was launched -- and reveal Justice Department officials discussing how to handle media scrutiny when both operations become public.

Among three of the emails (see Jason Weinstein Email Fast, Furious.pdf), the second, dated “October 17, 2010  11:07 PM,” was sent by Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein to James Trusty and it states:  “Do you think we should have Lanny participate in press when Fast and Furious and Laura’s Tucson case [Wide Receiver] are unsealed? It’s a tricky case, given the number of guns that have walked, but it is a significant set of prosecutions.”

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 06/08/2012 05:42 AM
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follydude

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is this as bad as the Reagan administration selling arm to the Iranians?
 06/08/2012 06:09 AM
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Update: The American people ARE that dumb. Look at who the masses elected to lead us for the last four years

 06/08/2012 06:13 AM
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B4UAccuseMe

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@follydude: Nope, selling arms was worse. However, Iran-Contra is history; this story is still unfolding, and, taken with other news that's becoming a hot topic --namely the leaking of DOD and CIA information, supposedly by the White House in order to boost Obama's political image-- can in no way benefit the President's run for re-election.

@GrabFace: That was in 2008. Some have learned their lesson. Others never will, and will thus become roadkill.



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 06/08/2012 06:16 AM
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romney is better?

 

lol



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 06/08/2012 06:17 AM
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Ya know your post remind me of someone else. I can't put my finger on it. ;/
 06/08/2012 06:30 AM
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Originally posted by: follydude is this as bad as the Reagan administration selling arm to the Iranians?

Originally it was done to realease hostages.

Events like these, even worse, occur in every administration. 

 06/08/2012 06:45 AM
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Holder is the imbecile in chief for this administration. And that is saying something.



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 06/08/2012 06:51 AM
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Why is it no one wants to discuss the whispered missile defense conversation Obama had with Medvedev, you know the one where Barack whispered to Dimitri words picked up on a live mike:

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility.

RUSSIAN PRESIDENT DMITRY MEDVEDEV: I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir. I understand you.

My guess is he's saying what we all think that if he wins, you'll see the real Obama, the one who isn't as keen on American interest as being the world's most progressive action figure. And he's right. Our national security is a nonissue once the American public is out of the way. It makes you wonder what else he's going to give up now that accountability is gone.

 



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 06/08/2012 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by: sirfir

Originally posted by: follydude is this as bad as the Reagan administration selling arm to the Iranians?



Originally it was done to realease hostages.


Events like these, even worse, occur in every administration. 


... and then?

hell, the original premise of "Fast & Furious" was well-intended and a great example of a blind double-snare. Get dirty dealers and dirty buyers and voila, a two-fer.

but, since it involves guns and Holder and the nimrods executing the plan, it was doomed - in the eyes of the Regressives from the start.

the plan weeded out a 1/2 dozen drug dealers and helped knock off a Mexi drug lord.... but, you know...

 06/08/2012 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by: follydude is this as bad as the Reagan administration selling arm to the Iranians?
Reagan was not attemting to turn public opinion against the second ammendment. Perhaps Holder was talking about his favorite movie with Vin Diesel.
 06/08/2012 04:28 PM
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follydude

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It was a sting gone bad. Blame Holder for not managing the op. Blame the ATF for being poorly managed.

But to consider that the op was a PR game is ludicrous.

Go back to your conspiracy network and get your jollies there.


 06/08/2012 05:19 PM
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http://frontporchpolitics.com/2012/06/eric-holder-fast-and-furious-doesnt-mean-fast-and-furious/



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 06/09/2012 11:03 AM
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Just 2 words.

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