Since this was reposted, I am going to repost my response.

That article is total junk science for several reason.If you want to educate yourself on health living, lifestyle, and get some REAL science on supplementation, this is a good place to start: http://www.longecity.org/forum/

 

Also, not all vitamins are created equal, most minerals arent needed, and supplements CANNOT be grouped together with one another ever in a generalization.

 

For example, Iron is almost never needed under any circumstance for a male or post menopausal female. In fact, given how many foods are fortified with it, most men could probably stand to use a chelator nightly like IP6 to stop long term accumulation.

Vitamin D3 ...too low increases all cause mortality ....so does too high. Complete bell curve effect. Proper D3 levels are more importan than cholesterol.

Magnesium ....HUGE to supplement if deficient.

Folic Acid ...given the amount of fortified foods, unless you are tested to be deficient or currently pregnant. Can increase cancer risk significantly.

Metformin (French Lilac) - even non type 2 diabetics would benefit from this drug. Decreases all cause mortality, increases healthspan, and drastically reduces risk of certain cancers.

Aspirin - 81 mg (baby aspirin) decreases all cause mortality when taken daily over a long time span. Drastically reduces cancer risk.

Zinc/Copper - Gotta be careful with this because they influence each other. High zinc = low copper and vice versa. Too much or too little of either causes significant health problems.

 

I really love 'Vitamin E' studies. Vitamin E isn't -a- vitamin. There are several different E's that all act independently from one another and have a completely different impact on the body. Most studies are done using the cheapest and bad form of Vitamin E (alpha tocopherol) which actually reduces levels of the gamma E's in your system which is detrimental to your health. The other E's have the exact opposit effect found in many of the negative studies.

 

I can go on and on and on. My point is dont bother paying attention to the stupid articles generalizing supplementation because they are almost all junk science and incorrectly drawn conclusions.

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mohandas K Gandhi

Aspirin started out as a  natural extract and has saved millions of lives.

French Lilac extract is the drug Metformin which has saved millions of lives.

Each and every single supplement, mineral, and vitamin acts differently in the body. Hell, even different forms of the 'same' supplement act differently in the body. They cannot ever be generalized our brought under a single commonality or summary.

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mohandas K Gandhi

Sorry if I am on a bit of a soap box here, but articles like this are extremely harmful because most people look at the summary without delving into the facts.

Like yea, no shit if you take a supplement with a heavy mineral like iron above what your body needs its going to cause problems (and a TON of them).

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mohandas K Gandhi

http://www.2ndlight.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=4&threadid=137142&enterthread=y

Not that I expected you to see it buried in another topic.

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mohandas K Gandhi

First actual topic yes.

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mohandas K Gandhi

Ah, what to believe? Guess, since I am going to die in any event, I ain't going to worry about it. Instead, I'll devote my energies to trying to have a good life, however long it may be.

Brujo, gdudewe, martinA and WG - the white Al Sharptons of NSR.

The technology is going to exist with this half of the century (roughly) to extend human lifespan (and healthspan) infinitely. Death outside of accidental cause will be a choice. The question is whether or not it will happen before or after you die.

A sane choice would be to use some of your energies atleast to promote earlier advances of this technology so you might benefit from it.

Or course that would also involve keeping religious nutjobs from influencing policy and funding with their religious beliefs as well as diminishing big pharma's influence over policy as well. Luckily we arent the only country doing research.

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mohandas K Gandhi

Originally posted by: bob3000

Originally posted by: RiddleMe Sorry if I am on a bit of a soap box here, but articles like this are extremely harmful because most people look at the summary without delving into the facts.

 

1. yes, you're on a soap box!!LOL & 2. articles like this are NOT harmful AT ALL, if you post disclaimers in them, and cite your sources. discuss,

I disagree with #2 Bob. I would agree with you if most people had the time and knowledge to read full research papers and interpret them correctly. The truth is that the vast majority of people are lacking in one or both of those things. They will be mislead.

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mohandas K Gandhi

That's a depressing thought. I don't want to live forever.

Brujo, gdudewe, martinA and WG - the white Al Sharptons of NSR.

Beating a dead horse is far more humane than beating a live one.

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mohandas K Gandhi

Better to die strong, healthy, full of vigor, and on your OWN terms when you are ready ...rather than slowly wasting away over time, having your body ravaged by age, and perhaps leaving before you are ready to.

Nobody says you HAVE to live forever. So no need for depression.

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mohandas K Gandhi

That's my intention.

Brujo, gdudewe, martinA and WG - the white Al Sharptons of NSR.