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Topic Title: WSJ: The Buffett Tax Loss
Topic Summary: It turns out this Obama proposal will cost federal revenue.
Created On: 04/14/2012 08:01 PM
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 04/14/2012 08:01 PM
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MaloTurista

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  • The Wall Street Journal

The Buffett Tax Loss

It turns out this Obama proposal will cost federal revenue.

The case for the Buffett tax keeps eroding. When President Obama announced the idea, he said it would help "stabilize our debt and deficits over the next decade." Then came the inconvenient revelation that the new 30% millionaire's tax would raise only $46.7 billion over 10 years, and would leave about 99.5% of the deficit intact in 2013. It was a far cry from "stabilizing the debt."

Now we learn that the Buffett tax the Senate is expected to vote on early next week will make the deficit worse. That's because both Mr. Obama and Senate Democrats have made it clear that their new "fairness" tax is to offset the revenue loss from another provision related to the Alternative Minimum Tax.

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That measure would exempt more than 20 million middle class Americans with incomes as low as $80,000 a year from getting nailed by the AMT. This year's Obama budget clearly describes their intent: "The Buffett Rule should replace the Alternative Minimum Tax, which now burdens middle-class Americans rather than stopping the richest Americans from paying too little as was originally intended."

The Joint Tax Committee—the official scoring referee on tax bills—calculates that the combination of AMT repeal for the middle class and the Buffett tax would add $793.3 billion to the debt over the next decade. As Mr. Obama has said, "This isn't politics, this is math."

The Buffett tax is losing any serious rationale by the day. Mr. Obama's position now is that we need a new fairness tax, because the old AMT fairness tax that was targeted at millionaires and billionaires isn't raising much money from the Warren Buffetts of the world. Instead it's siphoning income out of more and more nonmillionaires. So they argue it's time for a new Buffett rule, that is almost identical to the old Buffett rule, and no doubt in time will have the same unintended consequences.

The Buffett rule itself may die, but the name will live on as a metaphor for pointless public policy.

 04/15/2012 05:12 AM
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Breaking down the crap above:  "Don't tax the rich.  We will lie to our mindless followers anyway we can just don't tax the rich."

Rasing taxes on the wealthiest American has little to do with the AMT and the middle class.  But heck we're talking about a tax cut right?  That's good isn't it?

 04/15/2012 07:13 AM
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The non WSJ version.

http://www.miamiherald.com/201...und-on-both-sides.html

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 04/16/2012 11:32 AM
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"Let's do the math. The Joint Committee on Taxation estimates this new ['Buffett Rule'] tax would yield between $4 billion and $5 billion a year. If we collect the Buffett tax for the next 250 years -- a span longer than the life of this republic -- it would not cover the Obama deficit for 2011 alone. As an approach to our mountain of debt, the Buffett Rule is a farce. And yet Obama repeated the ridiculous claim again this week. 'It will help us close our deficit.' Does he really think we're that stupid? Hence the fallback: The Buffett Rule is a first step in tax reform. On the contrary. It's a substitute for tax reform, an evasion of tax reform. In three years, Obama hasn't touched tax (or, for that matter, entitlement) reform, and clearly has no intention to. The Buffett Rule is nothing but a form of redistributionism that has vanishingly little to do with debt reduction and everything to do with re-election. ... For Obama, fairness is the supreme social value. And fairness is what he is running on -- although he is not prepared to come clean on its price. Or even acknowledge that there is a price. Instead, Obama throws in a free economic lunch for all. 'This is not just about fairness,' he insisted on Wednesday. 'This is also about growth.' ... Three years ago, Obama promised universal health care that saves money. Today, he offers a capital gains tax hike that spurs economic growth. This is free-lunch egalitarianism." --columnist Charles Krauthammer



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 04/16/2012 12:33 PM
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MaloTurista

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A smart man should have learned by now that one shouldn't pay as much attention to what Obama talks about about, but rather what he doesn't, that his populist plans often mask a hidden agenda that services his odeology and not the good of the common man. This has been his modus operandi since Day One, and one's a fool not to recognize it. 

If you truly believe Obama to be a man of the People, ask yourself: Why have the People taken it on the chin for three-plus years while the upper crust (and whoever it is he demonizeze and you fall into line to hate) has done nothing bur prosper? Time after time, government auditing agencies point out the long-term folly of his economic and social agendas, and yet, here some of you are yelling for "Another lashing, sir, another lashing!"

 04/16/2012 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by: MaloTurista A smart man should have learned by now that I cut a paste from Anti American sites in order to hurt America.  I Hate all non whites and wish we were living in the 1930's again.

That about sums it up, Habib.



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 04/16/2012 01:17 PM
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