"The problem, according to Mooney, is that numerous conservatives are just plain wrong - stubbornly resisting facts the way Churchill resisted Nazis - on a broad range of issues, not just scientific ones but everything from the debt ceiling to light bulb regulations to whether the United States is a "Christian nation." His book aims to explain, as he puts it, "how the political right could be so wrong," and to draw out the implications of what science tells us about this pervasive wrongness."


frum

That is such bullshit.  I work in the science field and so does everyone else in my lab, all conservatives except for one, and some of the smartest scientific/technical guys you'll ever meet. 

Just reading the intro you can easily argue against the points they immediately raise.

Light bulbs - we don't want the goverment dictating what kind of bulbs we have to buy, nor car or anything else.  Its a freedom of choice issue.  It has nothing to do with science.   

Debt Ceiling - libs think you can borrow indefinately, but I guess those of us who want fiscal responsibility are defacto idiots?  I think its the other way around on this one. 

Christian nation - yes it's true, and easily verifiable.

If you want a good read that will actually challenge your thinking try this rather than liberal BS that will never make it onto a real best seller list outside of the lib book of the month club.

christ is is the bill or rights?

 

fail...angry not smart

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"The Republican Party of Eisenhower and Rockefeller has vanished, and in its place has come a hard-right, anti-government, socially conservative, economically extreme-liberal party that somehow manages to convey a combination of callousness and nastiness almost as a matter of pride."

That's clear enough.

 

 

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 Republican Democrat either way were screwed. 

The premise was are we a Christian nation, not is Christ mentioned in the Bill of Rights.

So, are we a Christian nation?  Do you see churches, mosques, or synagogues on every corner?  Does it say "In God We Trust" on your money, or "In Mohammed We Trust"?

Over 70% of American identify themselves as Christian.

All but two of the first 108 universities founded in America were Christian. This includes the first, Harvard, where the student handbook listed this as Rule #1: “Let every student be plainly instructed and earnestly pressed to consider well, the main end of his life and studies is to know God and Jesus Christ, which is eternal life, John 17:3; and therefore to lay Jesus Christ as the only foundation for our children to follow the moral principles of the Ten Commandments."

In 1777. Continental Congress voted to spend $300,000 to purchase bibles which were to be distributed throughout the 13 colonies! And in 1782, the United States Congress declared, “The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.

Not all the Founders were Christian, but many were.  Others were Deists and agnostics. 

Here are but a few of their comments:

John Adams -

“We recognize no sovereign but God, and no king but Jesus!”

"The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity"

Alexander Hamilton-

I now offer you the outline of the plan they have suggested. Let an association be formed to be denominated 'The Christian Constitutional Society,' its object to be first: The support of the Christian religion. Second: The support of the United States.

“I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor. I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man.”

Noah Webster-

"Every civil government is based upon some religion or philosophy of life. Education in a nation will propagate the religion of that nation. In America, the foundational religion was Christianity. And it was sown in the hearts of Americans through the home and private and public schools for centuries. Our liberty, growth, and prosperity was the result of a Biblical philosophy of life. Our continued freedom and success is dependent on our educating the youth of America in the principles of Christianity."

Sam Adam -

“The right to freedom being the gift of the Almighty...The rights of the colonists as Christians...may be best understood by reading and carefully studying the institutions of The Great Law Giver and Head of the Christian Church, which are to be found clearly written and promulgated in the New Testament.”

John Marshall-

"The American population is entirely Christian, and with us Christianity and Religion are identified. It would be strange indeed, if with such a people, our institutions did not presuppose Christianity, and did not often refer to it, and exhibit relations with it."

James Madison -

“I have sometimes thought there could be no stronger testimony in favor of Religion or against temporal Enjoyments even the most rational and manly than for men who occupy the most honorable and gainful departments and are rising in reputation and wealth, publicly to declare their unsatisfactoriness by becoming fervent Advocates in the cause of Christ, & I wish you may give in your Evidence in this way. Such instances have seldom occurred, therefore they would be more striking and would be instead of a "Cloud of Witnesses."

I've given a handful of examples clearly demonstrating we are a Christian nation.  I could easily give many more.  Prove we are not if you disagree.

troll fail, roger2. 0/5

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And Bob will ALWAYS be my numero uno. -Tiffanys

Sounds like a stupid book to me. I guess it will be a top seller with the progs.

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Brujo, gdudewe, martinA and WG - the white Al Sharptons of NSR.

blob3k fail, 0/5.

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"Me? 133 to 135 IQ depending on the test." Coleslaw

So, are we a Christian nation? Do you see churches, mosques, or synagogues on every corner? Does it say "In God We Trust" on your money, or "In Mohammed We Trust"?

It doesn't say "Jesus we trust".

Roger's paste includes some fake quotes.  What's that tell you about his source?

http://fakehistory.wordpress.com/2009/07/19/fake-quotations-harvard-student-handbook/

 

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From your own source.  Not much of a misquote assuming your source is correct.  Doesn't change the facts.  This "is" a Christian nation as a whole.  You are free to believe or disbelieve.  We are not a Theocracy, and few Christians want it to be one.  We do get tired of our faith being belittled while Islam and all others are defered to.

 

2. Let every Student be plainly instructed, and earnestly pressed to consider well, the maine end of his life and studies is, to know God and lesus Christ which is eternall life, Joh. 17. 3. and therefore to lay Christ in the bottome, as the only foundation of all sound knowledge and Learning.

And seeing the Lord only giveth wisedome, Let every one seriously set himselfe by prayer in secret to seeke it of him Prov 2, 3.

Republican versus Democratic like in cars.  Draw your own conclusions.

No conclusions are to be drawn from your sources as we have seen.

This "is not" a Christian nation, ass a hole. It is a nation in which there is no establishment of religion by government. The majority religious affiliation is irrelevant. In fact, if you wish to go by majority religious affiliation of power brokers, I would just about call this a Jewish nation. Before you get all worked up, that's no slight...I have no more problem with powerful Jews than powerful Christians...probably less.

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Learn something.  Anything.  Please.

Somebody sure has gotten an attitude lately!

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"The problems we face today exist because the People who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for their living."

Couldn't think of something better than an elephant for the cover, like, I don't know, a fried egg or neurological dissection of Ovis aries?

"The premise of the 2005 book The Republican War on Science (by Mother Jones contributor Chris Mooney) was that conservatives in the US hate science. They don't like evolution, they don't like global warming - none of that stuff. Now a sociologist set out to figure out if that thesis really is true, and concluded that the right in the US is indeed growing increasingly distrustful of science.

Gordon Gauchat of the University of North Carolina published these findings in the forthcoming issue of the American Sociological Review. He looked back at data from 1974 through 2010, and found that trust in science was relatively stable over that 36-year period, except among self-identified conservatives. While conservatives started in 1974 as the group that trusted science most (compared to self-identified liberals and moderates), they have now dropped to the bottom of the ranking."

The reason for this, according to Mooney and others, is that the "political neutrality of science began to unravel in the 1970s with the emergence of the new right" - a growing body of conservatives who were distrustful of science and the intellectual establishment, who were often religious and concerned about defending "traditional values" in the face of a modernizing world, and who favored limited government. This has prompted backlash against subjects for which there is broad scientific consensus, like global warming and evolution - backlash that has been apparent in survey data over the past three decades.

Mooney, who also has a new book out titled The Republican Brain, also highlights one of Gauchat's more distressing findings, which is that this trend seems to be more common among conservatives with higher levels of education:

...conservatives with high school degrees, bachelor's degrees, and graduate degrees all experienced greater distrust in science over time and these declines are statistically significant. In addition, a comparison of predicted probabilities indicates that conservatives with college degrees decline more quickly than those with only a high school degree. These results are quite profound, because they imply that conservative discontent with science was not attributable to the uneducated but to rising distrust among educated conservatives.

MJ

What did Thomas Jefferson say about Jesus?

He was a Founding Father after all.

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"Born fine the first time."

And in case you didn't notice, all three worship the same God.



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"Born fine the first time."

You progs are something else. So you believe a nonscientific finding that shows you are superior and we are inferior based on our attitudes toward whatever some prog considers to be science? Kind of reminds me of something the Nazi's did.

Well enjoy your sense of superiority.

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Brujo, gdudewe, martinA and WG - the white Al Sharptons of NSR.