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Why Does The Department Of Homeland Security Need 450 MILLION Hollow Point Bullets?
Somebody out there has decided that the Department of Homeland Security needs a whole lot of ammunition. Recently it was announced that ATK was awarded a contract to provide up to 450 MILLION hollow point bullets to the Department of Homeland Security over the next five years. Is it just me, or does that sound incredibly excessive? What in the world is the DHS going to do with 450 million rounds? What possible event would ever require that much ammunition? If the United States was ever invaded, it would be the job of the U.S. military to defend the country, so that can't be it. So what are all of those bullets for? Who does the Department of Homeland Security plan to be shooting at? According to the U.S. Census, there are only about 311 million people living in the entire country. So why does the Department of Homeland Security need 450 million rounds of ammunition? Either this is an incredible waste or there is something that the Department of Homeland Security is not telling us.

I could understand if the U.S. military was ordering ammunition in this quantity. When you fight wars you can go through ammunition very rapidly.

But the Department of Homeland Security is only supposed to be shooting at people very rarely.

It simply does not make sense that they would need so much ammunition.

The following is an excerpt from the official press release about this deal between ATK and the Department of Homeland Security....

ATK announced that it is being awarded an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) agreement from the Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (DHS, ICE) for .40 caliber ammunition. This contract features a base of 12 months, includes four option years, and will have a maximum volume of 450 million rounds.

ATK was the incumbent and won the contract with its HST bullet, which has proven itself in the field. The special hollow point effectively passes through a variety of barriers and holds its jacket in the toughest conditions. HST is engineered for 100-percent weight retention, limits collateral damage, and avoids over-penetration.

"We are proud to extend our track record as the prime supplier of .40 caliber duty ammunition for DHS, ICE," said Ron Johnson, President of ATK's Security and Sporting group.
But this is not the only kind of ammo that the DHS is placing an order for.

Business Insider is also reporting that the Department of Homeland Security is seeking to buy 175 million rifle ammunition rounds....

We've also learned that the Department has an open bid for a stockpile of rifle ammo. Listed on the federal business opportunities network, they're looking for up to 175 million rounds of .233 caliber ammo to be exact. The 223 is almost exactly the same round used by NATO forces, the 5.56 x 45mm.
This all comes at a time when gun sales are absolutely going through the roof in the United States.

Gun manufacturer Sturm, Ruger & Co. recently announced that it would be suspending new orders until May because it received orders for more than one million guns during the months of January and February.

The following announcement about this suspension of sales comes from their official website....

The Company's Retailer Programs that were offered from January 1, 2012 through February 29, 2012 were very successful and generated significant orders from retailers to independent wholesale distributors for Ruger firearms.
Year-to-date, the independent wholesale distributors placed orders with the Company for more than one million Ruger firearms.
Despite the Company's continuing successful efforts to increase production rates, the incoming order rate exceeds our capacity to rapidly fulfill these orders. Consequently, the Company has temporarily suspended the acceptance of new orders.
The Company expects to resume the normal acceptance of orders by the end of May 2012.
Since Barack Obama first took office, gun sales in America have risen to extraordinary levels.

Overall, more than 10 million guns were sold in the United States during 2011.

And gun sales have continued to rise at a brisk pace in 2012. The following was recently posted on Yahoo News....

The NSSF said that 920,840 instant criminal background checks were made in January alone, a gain of 17.3% over the same month in 2011. This now makes it the 20th consecutive month of increases. While using the number of background checks is a good measurement of sales, it doesn't paint the whole picture as some checks are used for the purchases of multiple firearms. Also, some private transfers and sales from gun shows are exempt, making the actual number of guns sold higher.
According to Gallup, 41 percent of all Americans said that they owned a gun in 2010. But when that question was asked again in 2011, that number had risen to 47 percent.

Clearly, a lot of Americans are feeling the need to arm themselves.

Unfortunately, they may find themselves short on ammunition for those guns considering how much ammo the government is buying up.

So what is causing everyone to buy so many guns?

Well, without a doubt we are likely to see a rise in crime as the U.S. economy continues to crumble. People want to be able to protect themselves and their families when everything falls apart. In fact, we are already starting to see some really violent home invasions in many parts of the nation. Many in the prepper movement are deeply concerned about the direction this country is headed and they want to be prepared for whatever happens.

Of course the rising gang problem in America is a major concern too. According to the FBI there are now 1.4 million gang members living in the United States, and that number has increased by 40 percent since 2009. Many urban communities have essentially been taken over by these gangs, and many of these gangs are definitely not shy about using violence. Average Americans that live in these communities want to be able to have a fighting chance against these gangs.

But that doesn't explain why the DHS needs so much ammunition. Yes, our world is becoming increasingly unstable, but under what conditions does the DHS ever anticipate firing off 450 million rounds?

Something does not add up. If anyone has a possible explanation for why the DHS would need 450 million rounds of ammunition, please post a comment and share your thoughts with us below....


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Brevard Surf Report

a lot more
neighborhood
watchmen

They plan on shooting a lot of civilians..... Americans.

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"Me? 133 to 135 IQ depending on the test." Coleslaw

Obviously I have no clue as I am just a simple guy trying to survive like everyone else at the bottom of the totem pole....

But, there is a lot of evidence out there to suggest that the US dollar's days of being the world reserve currency are numbered, and allegedly that day will officially happen before years end...(more and more countries are bypassing US currency and trading either in their own currencies or gold)

Much confusion, panic, and of course possible double digit+ inflation, could lead to significant social unrest....

Thanks goodness for surfing to take our minds off of this dismal economic/social/political reality we are living....

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Brevard Surf Report

When the crap hits the fan...better have a back up plan. :-)

I do.

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"Me? 133 to 135 IQ depending on the test." Coleslaw

DHS bases it's purchases on possible scenarios outlined by other government agencies, in this case the CDC.

Ya never know when an outbreak might get started.

http://www.bt.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp

 

After the zombie apocalypse, ammo will be priceless. I guess they are cornering the market. Buy all you can!

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Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs Italian, the mechanics German, and it is all organized by the Swiss. Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics French, and it is all organized by the Italians.

You don't have an answer for this one either.

Got it.

You really don't understand much....do you.

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"Me? 133 to 135 IQ depending on the test." Coleslaw

could be that the lobbyist for the bullet company was successful.

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Yo no estoy casado.

Pero mi esposa esta casada.

Yeah I know, but walking the streets selling BJs to chickenhawks isn't my style.
To each his own I suppose.

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Exotica Tropicals
Plant Nursery
Brevard Florida

that was funny. true but funny.

Yesterday my armoror told me that Ruger has a one million gun order backlog.

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

Some good quotes from the comment section on that article. Some all of you libtards that drink the anti-gun kool-aide should read. This is why the right to bear arms is second only to the freedom of religion and speech. Not the 10th amendment, not the 5th, but the 2nd. From one of the major architects of this country (pay attention to the last one):

"Over grown military establishments are under any form of government inauspicious to and hostile to liberty."
George Washington

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
George Washington

"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
George Washington

"Friends and Fellow-Citizens:.... a solicitude for your welfare which can not end with my life, and the apprehension of danger natural to that solicitude, urge me on an occasion like the present to offer to your solemn contemplation and to recommend to your frequent review some sentiments which are the result of much reflection, of no inconsiderable observation, and which appear to me all important to permanency of your felicity as a people.... Interwoven as is the love of liberty with every ligament of your hearts,.... The unity of government...is a main pillar in the edifice of your real independence...of your tranquility at home, your peace abroad; of your safety; of your prosperity; of that very liberty which you so highly prize.... avoid the necessity of those overgrown military establishments which, under any form of government, are inauspicious to liberty, and which are to be regarded as particularly hostile to republican liberty.... Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of [political] party generally. This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but in those of the popular form it is seen in its greatest rankness and is truly their worst enemy....It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one part against another; foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passion. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.... As a very important source of strength and security, cherish public credit. One method of preserving it is to use it as sparingly as possible, avoiding occasions of expense by cultivating peace, but remembering also that timely disbursements to prepare for danger frequently prevent much greater disbursements to repel it; avoiding likewise the accumulation of debt, not only by shunning occasions of expense, but by vigorous exertions in time of peace to discharge the debts which unavoidable wars have occasioned, not ungenerously throwing upon posterity the burthen which we ourselves ought to bear.... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world...."

They bullets make for a good alternate currency.

FYI:

I spoke to an Army insider, and he said as far as he knows, this is just a case of playing favors to a member of the military industrial complex....

Let's hope he is correct...

Although, you look at the favors played to the Carlyle Group and rut row



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Brevard Surf Report

Didn't Obama, while campaigning, say he wanted a "one million man domestic army?" 

Hell, that's only 450 rounds per man, less than half what I have stockpiled in my basement.

that doesn't leave alotta room for your bed of nails, and computer, does it!!???

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And Bob will ALWAYS be my numero uno. -Tiffanys

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