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Topic Title: Obama Care, unconstitutional? Topic Summary: What about requirements that ERs treat people irrespective of proof of ability to pay? Created On: 03/26/2012 06:05 PM Status: Post and Reply |
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03/30/2012 06:46 PM
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Good statement scombrid. I am impressed by your independent thought.
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03/30/2012 07:13 PM
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Agreed. Good job Scombird. Back to reality. If insurance was for emergencies only, ie. blood pouring out of my face and me getting 23 stitches in the ER to keep from breeding to death, then insurance would be cheaper for everyone, and GARCIA, that would include being cheaper for us older dudes. I am mid-40's by the way. Is that all that young? My dad is mid-70's and an occasional kidney stone and such is the extent of his heath problems. My point is the same. ER to keep you from dying, OK that's what we need insurance for. Out of pocket to get rid of that jock-itch or maybe next time I won't just throw my wetsuit in the trunk for 9 months and then put the stinky thing on next year with the mold grinding on my velvet bag.
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04/02/2012 12:14 PM
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Saw Obama on TV just now answering question about mandate. Basic response was that it has precedent.His basic argument is, Since we violated the constitution before we should be able to do it again.
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04/02/2012 12:24 PM
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Homeowner's insurance operates under the same principle - shared risk equals greater benefits for all. It does not, you do not need insurance in many cases. Also, there is no mandate that you buy insurance by the govt.... only people that own a home with a loan from the bank are demanded to have it. Also, you do not need automobile insurance in the FL and many other states as long as you have enough money to cover an equal amount of PIP, etc. Homeowner's is the same way, it's called self-insuring. The problem with this is that you are not protected from a lawsuit |
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04/02/2012 12:25 PM
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Homeowner's insurance operates under the same principle - shared risk equals greater benefits for all. I don't buy homeowners insurance. Thats my choice. I suppose some of you have a problem with that also. You have to if you hold a mortgage. Not true, in many states you are able to self-insure. |
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04/02/2012 12:26 PM
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It does not, you do not need insurance in many cases. Also, there is no mandate that you buy insurance by the govt.... only people that own a home with a loan from the bank are demanded to have it. Also, you do not need automobile insurance in the FL and many other states as long as you have enough money to cover an equal amount of PIP, etc. Homeowner's is the same way, it's called self-insuring. The problem with this is that you are not protected from a lawsuit
Doesn't the state revoke your license if you are uninsured? Edit: grabbed wrong quote. ------------------------- "Born fine the first time." |
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04/02/2012 12:27 PM
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Homeowner's insurance operates under the same principle - shared risk equals greater benefits for all. It does not, you do not need insurance in many cases. Also, there is no mandate that you buy insurance by the govt.... only people that own a home with a loan from the bank are demanded to have it. Also, you do not need automobile insurance in the FL and many other states as long as you have enough money to cover an equal amount of PIP, etc. Homeowner's is the same way, it's called self-insuring. The problem with this is that you are not protected from a lawsuit Doesn't the state revoke your license if you are uninsured? http://www.flhsmv.gov/ddl/frfaqself_person.html |
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04/02/2012 12:28 PM
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You think they revoke your homeowners license????
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04/02/2012 12:28 PM
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Homeowner's insurance operates under the same principle - shared risk equals greater benefits for all. I don't buy homeowners insurance. Thats my choice. I suppose some of you have a problem with that also. You have to if you hold a mortgage. Not true, in many states you are able to self-insure. US Bank (a national company) holds my mortgage and I am required to have insurance, are you saying they do this differently state by state? ------------------------- "Born fine the first time." |
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04/02/2012 12:29 PM
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WOW Cole is really clueless.
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04/02/2012 12:31 PM
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You can self-insure and get a personal ammended insurance protection against lawsuits only. You can get almost any type of insurance you want for almost anything you want to insure in almost any way, it just costs money.
There are different laws in each state for insurance but you also sign under contract to get other limits in which the holder of your loan insists, within limits. This is exactly why insurance across state lines would make things so much cheaper, it would make everything streamlined. This is also why obamacare is illegal. |
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04/02/2012 12:34 PM
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Homeowner's insurance operates under the same principle - shared risk equals greater benefits for all. It does not, you do not need insurance in many cases. Also, there is no mandate that you buy insurance by the govt.... only people that own a home with a loan from the bank are demanded to have it. Also, you do not need automobile insurance in the FL and many other states as long as you have enough money to cover an equal amount of PIP, etc. Homeowner's is the same way, it's called self-insuring. The problem with this is that you are not protected from a lawsuit Doesn't the state revoke your license if you are uninsured? http://www.flhsmv.gov/ddl/frfaqself_person.html Yea, but isn't the state forcing you to cover your ass and the ass of who you hit? ------------------------- "Born fine the first time." |
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04/02/2012 12:35 PM
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My house never hit anybody.
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04/02/2012 12:37 PM
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Homeowner's insurance operates under the same principle - shared risk equals greater benefits for all. It does not, you do not need insurance in many cases. Also, there is no mandate that you buy insurance by the govt.... only people that own a home with a loan from the bank are demanded to have it. Also, you do not need automobile insurance in the FL and many other states as long as you have enough money to cover an equal amount of PIP, etc. Homeowner's is the same way, it's called self-insuring. The problem with this is that you are not protected from a lawsuit Doesn't the state revoke your license if you are uninsured? ">http://www.flhsmv.gov/ddl/frfa...html Yea, but isn't the state forcing you to cover your ass and the ass of who you hit? No, the state cannot force you to cover your own ass, just others if you hurt them. It's this way in every state. That's why there is so much outcry about helmets and seatbelts, you are not helping to protect others, only yourself which there is really no mandate except that govt. got into out personal lives, including forcing hospitals to pay for someone who cannot pay for healthcare. |
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04/02/2012 12:39 PM
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My house never hit anybody. Self-insure. It's cheaper in the long-run for a house. |
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04/02/2012 12:41 PM
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My house never hit anybody. I corrected it, ya tool. ------------------------- "Born fine the first time." |
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04/02/2012 12:41 PM
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Of course we assume operating with a US license, which may not be the case. Freedom by thinking outside the box.
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04/02/2012 12:45 PM
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Homeowner's insurance operates under the same principle - shared risk equals greater benefits for all. It does not, you do not need insurance in many cases. Also, there is no mandate that you buy insurance by the govt.... only people that own a home with a loan from the bank are demanded to have it. Also, you do not need automobile insurance in the FL and many other states as long as you have enough money to cover an equal amount of PIP, etc. Homeowner's is the same way, it's called self-insuring. The problem with this is that you are not protected from a lawsuit Doesn't the state revoke your license if you are uninsured? "> http://www.flhsmv.gov...frfa.....> Yea, but isn't the state forcing you to cover your ass and the ass of who you hit? No, the state cannot force you to cover your own ass, just others if you hurt them. It's this way in every state. That's why there is so much outcry about helmets and seatbelts, you are not helping to protect others, only yourself which there is really no mandate except that govt. got into out personal lives, including forcing hospitals to pay for someone who cannot pay for healthcare. Racewave thinks the execution of those who don't think like him is fine and orgabac thinks the sick and injured children of the poor don't deserve medical attention. All the more reason to vote Democrat. ------------------------- "Born fine the first time." |
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04/02/2012 12:49 PM
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Racewave thinks the execution of those who seek to enslave him to the communist vision of a greater good is justified. Yes.
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04/02/2012 12:56 PM
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Racewave thinks the execution of those who seek to enslave him to the communist vision of a greater good is justified. Yes. Were they tried and convicted by an honest court, or rounded up and executed in the stadium like the Taliban method? ------------------------- "Born fine the first time." |
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