UFO Promoters Using Debunked Images in their Promotions

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Edited: 10/14/2019 at 12:29 PM by scombrid

Discovery Channel Running a Hoax

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Edited: 10/14/2019 at 12:31 PM by scombrid

At this point you are going to have to take me up in the ship or produce a corpse.

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Yeah, it's horsecrap, just like 'Squatch, Nessie and deep state.

Nearly everyone on this planet has a video camera now. What have we discovered? Ghosts, aliens, miracles, ESP, auras?

We have discovered that our pets are hilarious and that our law enforcement is in need of some reforms.

Edited: 10/14/2019 at 01:33 PM by TeeBirdForever

Have you seen the saucers?


JA

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

Well, but, , , , we are losing sight of the simple fact that the "Tic Tac" in the "Gimbal" video was a real object that showed on some of the world's most advanced radar systems, and also had "eyes on" by highly trained naval personnel. The "Gimbal" video that we have is a compressed and trimmed short version (back in 2004, such video and other digital things were sized in KB, not todays MB and GB. Original, shipboard personnel, report that they saw the longer (about 15 minute?) high resolution version and that the "object" was clear-as-a-bell.

Opinion: Here's a believable explanation of those UFO videos released by the Navy

Published: Oct 15, 2019 12:42 a.m. ET

Jurica Dujmovi? says a military patent could explain mysterious objects caught on video by a jet-fighter pilot

Cue "The X-Files" music and put on your tinfoil hats. We're going for a ride.

Last month the U.S. Navy confirmed that three videos of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) taken by airplane pilots a few years ago are indeed authentic. (Notice we're not saying "unidentified flying object," or UFO.) This means the videos went through the U.S. military, so it can be assumed they have not been computer-generated or altered.

Three clips dubbed "FLIR1," "Gimbal" and "Go Fast" show two encounters between Navy aircraft and UAP. The object was tracked by the aircraft's Raytheon RTN, +0.33% AN/ASQ-228 Advanced Targeting Forward-Looking Infrared (ATFLIR) Pod, and in all three videos, it performed maneuvers that cannot be executed using current aviation technology.

Commander David Fravor, who flew one of the fighters in the video ("Gimbal"), describes the object as "Tic Tac"-shaped, 40-feet long, with no wings, exhaust or discernible propulsion. After some maneuvering, the object ended up hovering above the water. Moments later, it rapidly ascended to 12,000 feet and finally accelerated away at a speed the commander suggested was "well above supersonic."

Unsustainable G-forces
When asked if a human pilot could survive such an acceleration in a modern aircraft, Fravor responded with a resounding "no." Acceleration of that magnitude would wreak havoc on the human body: broken bones, shifting of organs, burst blood vessels and even death would occur as the body was crushed with G-forces it could not withstand.

But let's consider for a second that the mysterious object in question was manned by a human pilot. In that case, the vehicle would have to be equipped with the technology capable of reducing the inertial mass of the object by generating gravity waves to reduce G-forces during acceleration.

Navy patent
Perhaps this could be achieved if the outer shell of the craft were turned into a cavity wall filled with gas, which would vibrate thanks to microwave emitters. This description was taken from a patent the U.S. Navy applied for in 2016, which says such a peculiar craft could move with great ease through air, space or water by being enclosed in a vacuum plasma bubble or sheath.

That could be the UAP that Fravor saw during his documented flight. Gravity manipulating tech at play could explain how the craft was able to effortlessly perform certain maneuvers such as suddenly turning sideways without losing altitude (aka knife-edge flight) in the FLIR1 video, or rapidly changing in-flight direction without visible inertia.

While the patent for the mysterious craft was approved last year, there is no indication that it was built or tested. Then again, it's hard to imagine that a military aircraft equipped with this kind of technology would get any publicity.

Accidental release
If it indeed was this craft in the video, it was built and tested prior to the patent application. However, it could be that the cat got out of the bag. That could be why the Navy reluctantly acknowledged the authenticity of the footage, while also outlining that it wasn't cleared for public release.


So far, the pieces of the puzzle seem to be falling into place. Then again, at about the 1:17 mark in the video above, one pilot says: "There's a whole fleet of them. Look on the ASA." ASA is most likely AESA, the APG-79 radar's "search while track" feature that enables it to follow multiple targets without degradation to its search capability. Having one experimental craft exposed during a mission is a likely event, but what about a whole fleet?

Two explanations
We have two possibilities: First, there was more than one mysterious aircraft at the location, but it's unlikely any of them was our patented vehicle.

Another explanation could be that because of the vacuum sheath or another type of stealth technology surrounding the UAP, radar erroneously reported multiple bogies, where in fact there was only one.

That would also explain why the pilot had a hard time locking on to the target in "FLIR1" and "Go Fast" videos. The speed must have played a role as well. Clinicians have a saying: Common things are common. If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

So what do you think is more likely? A Navy experimental aircraft, inadvertently uncovered by pilots, or an alien UFO? My bet is on the latest Navy patent, but I'm open to suggestions. Please share them in the comment section below. You can take your tinfoil hat off now.

Jurica Dujmovic is a MarketWatch columnist.

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The old, original Metabunk stuff did seem to be reasonable but, , , , It has now been established that what is in the Navy videos is officially real; as witnessed by the pilots and the radar.

There has been a major shift in all of this over the past year. "UFO" is now "UAP" (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) and, as such, UAPs do exist. We have no idea what they are but, the old "Venus" and "swamp gas" explanations are no longer valid. High ranking folks will now say that UAPs are real. Top Secret cleared PhDs have said that what ever they are, they are real.

I would only assume that "they" are actual aliens but, at this point that is only a "feeling". Mrs Dingpatch did say very clearly that she had ", , , , been in THAT room, I have been in the Weirdo Room at Wright-Pat, , , ,". (WTF would she call a weirdo?)!




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Edited: 01/06/2020 at 05:36 AM by dingpatch

Very good question, she did marry you, right? JUST KIDDING DING! We love ya dude! Post on!

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Haha. I still side with Scombrid.

We have a mountain of evidence for evolution yet millions don't believe it. We have no solid evidence for aliens and yet millions believe that.

Humans are clearly susceptible to crazy ideas. We have a weakness for myths. That was useful until the enlightenment when it became a liability.

This just proves that Ding watches some whacked out stuff.

Mathematically speaking, there has to be other life in the universe, but traveling a billion light years to torment farmers and other rural humans? Prolly not.

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I was right.

There must be, yes.

Here's a listing of the problems with us finding out anything. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

Ok, Ok, so let's just skip all of the talk of "aliens". But, still, there is Mrs Dingpatch's statement about being in the "weirdo room". She did in fact work for senior General officers at Langley and it was serious enough that she made the call, under orders, to have people terminated for simply revealing that the "unit" existed (by doing so, the offenders showed that they were immediate threats to Critical National Security.)

But, the facts remains that the objects in the Navy videos are real and actual and, at that, they are true Unidentified Arial Phenomena. The "Metabunk" analysis is now moot and was from a time when there were still those who said that the videos were fake. I know that searching some of the sources may be rather distasteful for some of you but, you will find recent interviews with senior government officials who verify the reality of the videos.

There is still a large cadre of very religious individuals who will do anything they can to discount any/all of this.

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There is a large cadre of individuals with scientific training who are interested in the results of experiments on quantum mechanics and gravity waves. That has produced results.

DNA tests on bigfoot hair have not.

My dad was a chemist for the army. In '61 he was transferred to Germany. He had a "Cosmic Clearance" while serving. There was an Ancient Aliens about a general who was sent to Germany around that time to review Nazi files of UFOs. He had a "Cosmic Clearance". When my sis and I asked him, in the past, if they were real, he'd just stare at us. He's 95 and in hospice. I told him his granddaughter wanted to know if UFOs are real, and just check the yes or no box on a piece of paper, not to be opened until he's gone. He did it and we'll see. Hopefully not for a while.

Just remember: SILVER! foil hats everyone.
Not tin or aluminum!
Soros has an army of aliens hiding behind the moon, waiting for their orders. To join an army of antifas posing as homeless folks! To take over merica!
Btw: Oakley actually has a line of tin foil lined hats......lol
duhh....

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^Can't say I disagree, silver has excellent conductivity, but not everybody is born with a silver hat on their head. I think copper is the working man's silver, as far as hats go. Aluminum is fine in a pinch, maybe silver for really dressy occasions, but copper, now that makes a statement. Anybody tried oxygen free copper? I can't say that I can tell the difference...

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My wife and I saw one the other day in our car. Check it out...

Ok, OK, keep having your fun at the expense of reality, , , , ,

But, to keep your concentration on aliens, , , , this is the scene from the Roswell movie where Mrs. Dingpatch told me that she had been there; she had been in the Weirdo Room at Wright Patterson AFB. She never said another word about it and I never asked her about it. It is very disturbing to think about, , , ,!



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Hmm, what should I use this double post for?

Oh, I know! Aliens made me do it!

Edited: 01/09/2020 at 06:39 AM by TeeBirdForever