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Topic Title: Collaboration' Creates Mediocrity, Not Excellence, According to Science
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Created On: 07/23/2017 08:13 AM
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 07/23/2017 08:13 AM
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WG

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Far from being a productivity panacea, a collaborative culture will drive your top performers away.

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 07/23/2017 11:47 AM
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Related article I read a little while ago:
How Silicon Valley is Turning Itself into Detroit
 07/23/2017 01:12 PM
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This is one of the best articles I have read on the subject and mirrors exactly my 33 years experience in the space industry, both as a manager and as a worker - https://hbr.org/2009/05/why-teams-dont-work
 07/24/2017 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by: garcia

This is one of the best articles I have read on the subject and mirrors exactly my 33 years experience in the space industry, both as a manager and as a worker -

https://hbr.org/2009/05/why-teams-dont-work


https://hbr.org/2009/05/why-teams-dont-work

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 07/24/2017 07:28 AM
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And well worth clicking on.
Thanks garcia

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 07/24/2017 08:33 AM
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Backs up my life time observations.



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moody

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LOL, I've been teaching a collaboration course for several years now, fully online. I STILL struggle with it, but because corporations demand this type of performance, I keep plugging away to make things as good as they can be even when they're dismal. Talk about not believing in your topic!

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 07/24/2017 03:33 PM
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ww

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Still, all sorts of things need collaboration.  Architects like to think of themselves as getting the various participants to play with each other, while trying to make the outcome have a bit of character and utility.  

 07/24/2017 04:09 PM
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WG

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Everything needs some collaboration.
But with engineering anyway, there are known limits that are being ignored by managers.

One of the articles talks about team size, 6 being a good limit.
I've lead teams of 2-50, single digits seem about right.
Double digits significantly reduces productivity.

The stars can carry a small team and even elevate the performance of some of the others.
More than a few, you wear out and alienate the stars.

Collaborative offices can work too, if they stick to a size limit.
Single digit numbers of people in a room, or area.

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 07/24/2017 07:36 PM
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They need to recognize that people are different. I spend more time with earplugs in (if I can't concentrate with music) than without, in my damn 16-person cube farm.

It's just way too easy to interrupt someone (who doesn't deal well with interruptions) when you can just walk right up without barriers like a door.

 07/26/2017 05:47 PM
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I don't know.  Well, actually I do.  I do prefer small teams, but having lead successful teams up to > 20 peeps of disparate disciplines, there are stories and lessons for all.  I'm sure those stories will continue as long as we are building things, which is not as common these days.  Innovation, yeah, a few really smart folks can really drive that.  Execution of those concepts however, can require you to make large teams work.  I enjoy sharing those successes, and i don't care for the individual  recognition that can be associated with it. That is one of the defintions of team.

 07/27/2017 12:45 PM
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WG

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I think there is a big difference between working on a team, especially with lot's of different discipline working together, and forcing a "collaborative" work environment on them.
The first is of course vital to producing anything, the second is a management fad driven largely by cost reductions and trendiness.


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