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 02/07/2017 08:19 AM
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RegularJoe

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I really wanted to keep my 1997 Suburban (likewise about 14-15 mpg on daily use) for the same reasons, but the Cash-for-Clunkers trade was too sweet.

(I got $4500 for a car worth about $1500 blue book; thank you fellow taxpayers! )

Possibly of interest (if I didn't already overlook a link):

http://www.hypermiler.com/
 02/08/2017 02:51 PM
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I've had a few "regular" cars that really did well with gas mileage. A Geo Prizm/Corolla, Mazda Progege and Saturn SL. All were manual and getting about 36 mpg with mixed driving. Also, with a manual transmission I do a lot of neutral drifting, not to be confused with Tokyo drifting. Basically putting the car into neutral while approaching red lights, stop signs, long downhills (didn't always live in FL).
 02/09/2017 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by: realsur4 I've had a few "regular" cars that really did well with gas mileage. A Geo Prizm/Corolla, Mazda Progege and Saturn SL. All were manual and getting about 36 mpg with mixed driving. Also, with a manual transmission I do a lot of neutral drifting, not to be confused with Tokyo drifting. Basically putting the car into neutral while approaching red lights, stop signs, long downhills (didn't always live in FL).
I worry that manual transmissions will soon be a thing of the past. It makes me sad. I'll continue needlessly revving and loudly engine braking while I still can.
 02/09/2017 08:41 AM
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Well, , , , after reading various reviews it seems that there are a lot of those that still want a manual, and at the least, an "old style" auto that you can feel when it shifts. Buggy whip?

Then again, remember 10 years ago when the iPhone came out? A lot of folks did not like it at all because, , , , it was too hard to text without actual buttons/keys on the phone.

Ya'll will get-over-it and adapt to your newfangled CVT.
 02/09/2017 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by: dingpatch

Well, , , , after reading various reviews it seems that there are a lot of those that still want a manual, and at the least, an "old style" auto that you can feel when it shifts. Buggy whip?



Then again, remember 10 years ago when the iPhone came out? A lot of folks did not like it at all because, , , , it was too hard to text without actual buttons/keys on the phone.



Ya'll will get-over-it and adapt to your newfangled CVT.


I was at BJ's tire center two weeks ago and the big ol mechanic(young guy though) came running out after me with my keys to sheepishly ask if I could pull my CRV into the bay because it was a manual!!!

I was scared to let him work on it but he said he knew tires well!


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 02/09/2017 12:29 PM
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mine is a 6 speed with no gear pattern on the shifter, nobody can figure it out. where they all assume reverse to be is actually 6th gear which doesn't get you anywhere.
 02/09/2017 01:20 PM
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stokedpanda

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Originally posted by: skatensurf

mine is a 6 speed with no gear pattern on the shifter, nobody can figure it out. where they all assume reverse to be is actually 6th gear which doesn't get you anywhere.


Nice anti theft on the cheap lol

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 02/10/2017 06:18 AM
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tom

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Six speeds are great!

1, 3, and 5 on Mon, Wed and Friday,

2, 4 and 6 on Tues, Thurs and Saterday

and the tranny lasts twice as long!

(as heard on CarTalk)

 02/13/2017 03:08 PM
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Did the Deltona trip again Saturday. From Hwy 50 in T-ville on 95 to 46, 46 to 415, and then local roads and back to 95 in Mims: 49.1 MPG. When I turned off of 95 onto Wickham Road it had dropped to 47.1.
 02/14/2017 11:49 AM
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 02/14/2017 03:26 PM
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SunriseSurfer

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Like the price on the Bolt....

.... and surf racks.


Hmmm, wonder if my 9 footer will fit inside.






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 02/14/2017 05:24 PM
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dingpatch

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$30K after $7500 Federal credit is too rich for my retired surfer blood.
 02/14/2017 05:50 PM
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sharkey

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Deisel Cruze gets 52 mpg & starts at $24,670.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/we-now-know-the-2017-chevrolet-cruze-diesels-digits-24670/

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/02/13/chevrolet-cruze-diesel-official-mpg-rating/

Just sayin'.

 02/16/2017 09:18 AM
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tom

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Was just reading about the diesel Cruze

does it really have a 9 speed automatic?!?

it might as well be CVT

 02/16/2017 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by: dingpatch

$30K after $7500 Federal credit is too rich for my retired surfer blood.


I think it may pay for itself on fuel costs in the long run.
 02/17/2017 06:39 AM
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tom

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I'm not sure if my understanding of MPGe is correct but 

1 gallon equivalent is 37/kWh (at $0.114 kWh)

so should cost $3.84 in electricity,

since the Bolt is getting 100MPGe, that's about $0.038/mile.

A gallon of diesel cost about $2.30 right now,

diesel Cruze gets about 52MPG from above so about $0.044/mile.

Only about a 13% $ fuel saving.  

Of course, fuel is really cheap now.  

IF diesel was $4/gal and electric stayed about the same

you'd be saving about 50%.

Back of the envelope calcs are always subject to

CAVEATS!!!

Such as, this is a back of the envelope calculation, YMMV.  Haha!



Edited: 02/17/2017 at 06:53 AM by tom
 02/22/2017 11:56 AM
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WG

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This Bolt test got 4.1 miles per kilowatt-hour.

So at $0.114 kWh that's $0.028 per mile, a bit better.

 02/23/2017 09:03 AM
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tom

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Seems that the MPGe rating may be more conservative

than conventional EPA estimated MPG on conventional cars

that can be, shall we say, optimistic at times?

 06/09/2017 09:16 AM
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dingpatch

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Just drove from Suntree to Lake Nona: Wickham Road - I95 - 528 - 417. Cruise set at 71 on I95 and 528. When I got off of the 417 at Lake Nona, MPG was 48.4!!

Early morning drive, no wind. But, the most interesting thing was, , , , I unintentionally discovered the drafting sweet spot behind a semi. Traffic being what it was, , , , I ended up behind a semi. Nothing all that unusual but, , , , , I looked down at the display and the little gas mileage slider display was way over to the right (left = 0, right = better). At first, in that split second, all I could think was that the engine was cutting out! Then, there was the ", , , hey, wait a minute" moment, ", , , , I'm drafting the semi! All things equal, the short period of time that I drafted (about 7 miles) resulted in a "trip" gain of 2 MPG.

I will conduct further study next week.
 06/09/2017 09:43 AM
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WG

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ding, that's awesome
that via the onboard MPG calculator, right?
wondering if you have calibrated it for real, via the gas pump?
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