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 04/01/2012 09:02 PM
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Rolling Stone has a story from Dartmouth

 04/02/2012 06:12 AM
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"I was a member of a fraternity that asked pledges, in order to become a brother, to: swim in a kiddie pool of vomit, urine, fecal matter, semen and rotten food products; eat omelets made of vomit; chug cups of vinegar, which in one case caused a pledge to vomit blood; drink beer poured down fellow pledges' ass cracks... among other abuses," he wrote. He accused Dartmouth's storied Greek system - 17 fraternities, 11 sororities and three coed houses, to which roughly half of the student body belongs - of perpetuating a culture of "pervasive hazing, substance abuse and sexual assault," as well as an "intoxicating nihilism" that dominates campus social life. "One of the things I've learned at Dartmouth - one thing that sets a psychological precedent for many Dartmouth men - is that good people can do awful things to one another for absolutely no reason," he said. "Fraternity life is at the core of the college's human and cultural dysfunctions."


the college has produced a long list of celebrated alumni - among them two Treasury secretaries (Timothy Geithner, '83, and Henry Paulson Jr., '68), a Labor secretary (Robert Reich, '68) and a hefty sampling of the one percent (including the CEOs of GE, eBay and Freddie Mac, and the former chairman of the Carlyle Group). Many of these titans of industry are products of the fraternity culture: Billionaire hedge-fund manager Stephen Mandel, who chairs Dartmouth's board of trustees, was a brother in Psi Upsilon, the oldest fraternity on campus. Jeffery Immelt, the CEO of GE, was a Phi Delt, as were a number of other prominent trustees, among them Morgan Stanley senior adviser R. Bradford Evans, billionaire oilman Trevor Rees-Jones and venture capitalist William W. Helman IV. Hank Paulson belonged to Lohse's fraternity, Sigma Alpha Epsilon, or SAE.


I've often said that the behavior of our elected and appointed officials in DC and most of corporate leadership mirrors this dysfunctional, self-protecting fraternity mentality.

Good to see someone pointing out why.


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 04/02/2012 08:20 AM
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Well, I can't say that I am terribly surprised.  Many of these fine upstanding students go on to become prominent politicians and leaders of America's corporate world. Makes sense.



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 04/02/2012 08:22 AM
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BTW, that story is subscriber access only, but there's a wormhole link at Arts & Letters Daily, a great place to find, um, intelligent stuff.

I've long had a running game of figuring out what colleges might have at least been interesting to apply to back when I was 17 and pretty stupid.  I don't think UC San Diego existed at the time, wouldn't have gotten in as an out-of-state student anyway.  Wouldn't have gotten into the University of Chicago, either, but it seems the perfect anti-Dartmouth.

 04/02/2012 12:49 PM
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I don't know when they were founded, but UCSD's CompSci department was pretty famous circa 1982 for the UCSD Pascal compiler on the Apple II.

With an establishment like the Salk Research Institute, I imagine they've been prominent in things biological for a while.

You can't be that old!!!

I've given thought to Georgia Tech for more grad school, especially with so many online degrees available now.

I certainly would have flunked out of Tech with my 18-year old study ethic.

Friends of mine who pledged fraternities as freshmen there are testaments to hard work.

Their Greek scene struck me as pretty insane at the time (early/mid 80's). One of their homecoming floats was a perfect replica of the DeathMobile from Animal House.

Re: Dartmouth -- remind me not to hire any of their grads.

FWIW, I pledged a fraternity my sophomore year, then went inactive a year later. If my kids want to join a social fraternity in college, I will withhold all parental funding. I think the system is messed up, beyond broken. To pretend Dartmouth is unique is naive. The only difference there is the money, connections, and sense of entitlement.



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 04/02/2012 01:17 PM
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UCSD had started its undergraduate programs when I was looking for a college to go to.  Back then, it might conceivably have been possible to get in.  The university was set up basically to give Scripps Oceanographic a better neighborhood.  The other Scripps (a molecular-biology outfit with a branch somewhere around Port St. Lucie) has thrived, and of course there's Salk with its beautiful buildings.  

I ended up at a large blue-collar state university in a remote inland location.  Parents of students worked at steel mills, coal mines, shirt factories, grocery stores, whatever.  There was apparently a huge social stigma against kids from well-off families going there.  I guess one of the curiosities of the place was that they no doubt had some of the exact same frats as Dartmouth.

One of my fellow grad students was from Dartmouth.  He was normal enough and definitely smart. 

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