If you're trying to count how many planets could be candidates for harboring life in our galaxy, this might blow your mind: Scientists now say there could be billions of them."


Astronomers working with the European Southern Observatory's (ESO) HARPS instrument estimate that in our galaxy, there are tens of billions of rocky planets not so much bigger than Earth orbiting red dwarf stars within the habitable zones of those relatively cool stars. A habitable zone is the area in a star system where liquid water can exist on a planet's surface without boiling away or staying frozen."
lightyears blog

Why don't we hear from them?

Broadcasting any amount of distance would take sun-like power. Even in the plane of the galaxy. Wave energy
dissipates with r squared (or r if you can get a true cylinder shape).

Sending a tight beam would work...within the cone of the beam. Where should we aim?

The question is, are we in a part of a galaxy someone would send a beam toward?

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Makes the Fermi Paradox even more um, paradoxy? 

Yup.

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a better question is... what makes you so sure they are using "beams" OR what makes you so sure they want to communicate with us?

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And Bob will ALWAYS be my numero uno. -Tiffanys

Reception is measured on a scale of 1 to 5 bob. I bet you love that!


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If they are using radio (AKA, electromagnetic waves) then beams are the only way to preserve signal strength for vast, unaccountable distances.

If they are not beyond radio. Or died out before they could get there. Or never evolved past NSR levels.

And if they want to contact anyone.



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The question begs more questions.

I think "they" have been here. You know ancient astronauts. You really think those Egyptian dudes build them Pyramids by themselves? How about the Aztecs, Maya, Inca, Olmec, Nazca Lines, Stonehenge, Easter Island and all the rest?

We just want to look at everything on our terms. Most certainly folks from out there are different. One example could be a time space issue. How about the case of the little green man who says hello but it takes 20 of our years for the word to come out, cuz his time and space are different. Even if we could hear it , it would just sound like some kind of background noise.

I just hope that we are too insignificant to be approached. The perverbial pimple on the rat's ass. I have seen too many bad alien movies. Other than ET were there any "good" alien movies?

Just in case lets all remember the immortal words of Will Smith: "Welcome to Earth mfer."



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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

OR perhaps they are way beyond radio and any kind of "beam" .

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And Bob will ALWAYS be my numero uno. -Tiffanys

i like the way you are thinking, butt - does that apply to all "alien" varieties? I think not. so i'll give you a 1/5 and jdb gets a 4/5 for thinking out of the box.

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And Bob will ALWAYS be my numero uno. -Tiffanys

If they are beyond radio then they won't trouble with us.

http://www.terrybisson.com/page6/page6.html

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Evolution via random mutation has only produced life once that we know of, so far.

I don't think we can use human intelligence as a measuring stick against unknown intelligence.  I mean shit, not to long ago the world was flat, and we lived in a heliocentric universe.  

When I go to a zoo, I don't talk to the animals and expect an intelligent response, they are so "primitive" that they are not worth that level of communication, but rather I just try and understand their purpose and enjoy their existence.

 I like to think of our reality somewhat similar to an ant living in a colony.  Day to day jobs and duties, yet what do they really know.  They can maybe take a break from their lives and look up, and go, "Shit, what the hell is out there."  "What the hell am I doing here, and why?"

I think when you start to use our "known" science, in a way that creates boundaries on possibility, that you have a very closed earthly viewpoint.

Just my perspective from one bald ape to my brothers.

This is a quote from Einstein discussing religon but it touches on this topic as well.  Quote from wiki:

I'm not an atheist. I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's pantheism, but admire even more his contribution to modern thought because he is the first philosopher to deal with the soul and body as one, and not two separate things.^[6] 

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Ring...BOOM...snow. -Hatrick Penry

I think the History Channel is full of shit and has decided that selling Woo Woo is more profitable than actual documentary.

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The ancient Greeks built temples with astonishingly sophisticated stonework.  Fortunately for us, a temple somewhere in Turkey has a big wall, not given its final finish, that shows a lot of how it was planned and executed, cut into the rock.  Without that, by now, we might have people claiming that little green men showed the Greeks how to do it.  

Yes. You can do a hell of a lot with a compass and straightedge. Ask any old-school carpenter.

Ancient peoples weren't stupid. They just didn't have calculus (or calculators).

Also, look at how surfboards are designed. It's all empirical (trial and error) by non-engineers. This works well. Why? Because the complexity of a planing board that is being worked defies any kind of reasonable analysis. CFD is expensive, slow and usually limited to straightforward scenarios; that is, not a guy schralping.

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Boiled down, either:

1.  Intelligence is so rare that we're too far apart to see each other (spatial or temporal).

2.  Intelligence is self limiting (ouch).

3.  They don't want to talk to us (doh).

Can't say I blame them;

and,

I can't help but think "life" (self-replicating, evolving biochemistry)

 is not uncommon.  We'll find it soon enough. 

You too, can help in the search for ETI...

seti at home

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I AM IGNORANT of absolute truth. But I am humble before my ignorance and therein lies my honor and my reward.

"- Kahlil Gibran, Sand and Foam

I wonder if somebody out there has figured out a way to modulate the light emitted by a star. The signal could be riding on the star's light beams. Of course you then need something that can read minute high frequency variations in light intensity (or any frequency I suppose).

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dudes..here is the real story....They came here a long time ago. Pushed along evolution and us moderns came along. Dudes came back and helped get some civ going.  ( Pryamids, the wheel, metal works, writting  and such)

Came back a while latter and saw that we had effed it up. Those dudes are not coming back. OK ?

 

so the only stuff that is out there that is even thinking about visiting is crap like what we saw in movies: Ie: The Krill from Forbbiden Planet, Apes from Planet of the Apes, All 4 of the aliens from the Alien's , Gort from the Day the Earth Stood Still, those shrimp things from District 9, those human gathering machines from war of the world's, ET is not coming back, been here done that.  Oh do not forget the Borg, they have been eyeballing this place for a long time. 

The best thing we can do is drop some more nukes and camaflouge the planet .

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