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Topic Title: has anyone else essentially "stretched out" their acl to the point where doctors want surgery?
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 05/15/2018 08:50 AM
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surfmcc32

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been surfing since I could walk and at only 23 my knee’s in bad shape. Wear a knee brace while surfing but the balance issues are pretty annoying still and it often gives out. Pain is bad at times but nothing a little pot can’t relieve. Wondering if anyone else has similar issues and what you did/do. Most likely getting surgery soon as a full tear surgery will be much worse..

 05/15/2018 09:58 AM
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Cole

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I've never heard of a stretched out ACL, though I imagine they are talking about small tears.

I kept going on mine and ended up blowing out my knee; 70 percent tears of the LCL and MCL, tears to both sides of the ACL and a fracture to the tibia. Almost a year in recovery.

Long story short, don't screw with it.

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 05/15/2018 11:52 AM
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Plan B

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Originally posted by: Cole Long story short, don't screw with it.

I was going to say.... I'm not one  to advocate going under the knife until you absolutely have to

43, surfing for 30 years, and unfortunately can't remember when my knees didnt hurt.  (probably before I was 23)... and unfortunately most everything else too...

(and yes, I've had surgery for a shredded  meniscus, also have fracture the knee joint of my tibia on the other leg) .... and have been putting off surgery for a shredded labrum (even powered through 2 weeks on the north shore this winter....  there's no pain on GameDay, just advils

 

pretty sure you can do a variety of rehab exercises (particularly lateral ones) using ankle weights and resistance bands to help get that thing back in gameshape



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 05/15/2018 12:28 PM
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TheMazz729

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I "stretched" (tore) my ACL to the point that it ripped right off the bone in a motocross accident. I had a cadaver ACL put in with some titanium hardware back in 2005 and had to have my medial and lateral meniscus repaired. I was back up and running and riding moto again in 3 months. Today, it bothers me less than my other knee which has not been worked on before. The physical therapy and down time is the worst part IMO. My ortho was Dr. Lombardo, who has also done my fathers knee.

 05/15/2018 01:18 PM
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surfnmlb

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Had torn my ACL in collage, had to always keep up with muscle fitness, (road-bike, lifting) years later finished it off surfing and ripped the MCL. (because of it being weak) I thought it hurt then. Not to scare you, but the recovery is a bitch. Was back in about 6 months stronger than ever. Stay up with the recovery, don’t slack, surfed with a brace for the first year. I choose to use my patellar tendint. So it was 3 injuries to recover from.

I say get it done as soon as possible!!

 05/16/2018 08:05 AM
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surfmcc32

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Thanks for the replies, all were very helpful- and yeah it was lots of micro tears and it’s kinda just broken down almost because of it, it’s much thinner in many spots than my other knee.

 05/16/2018 08:15 AM
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Plan B

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Micro tears can heal itself with rest.... and rehab.  "Luckiliy" for you (and unfortunate for everyone else) we're approaching FLAT season, so take some time off. (no wiggling a shortboard / fin throws in small / soft waves for a while)

and yes, I will second the knee brace idea.... When I was your age I had to wear one for a year it seemed



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 05/16/2018 09:27 AM
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Cole

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I did the knee brace too, but ended up with muscle loss because the brace took the place of the support muscles. The circumference of my left leg was three inches less than that of my right. Use the brace for support, but make sure to PT the muscles that support the knee.

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 05/16/2018 09:49 AM
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Plan B

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yeah, I shouldve clarified.   I only used it surfing or other sport speciffic / potentially high impact activities (skating, pick up BBall, etc)  not for regular use (unless I happenned to be in alot of pain)..... i already have chicken legs as it is 



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 05/16/2018 10:17 AM
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equipeola

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Just the constriction from having the da-- thing on, was to much for me to handle even after 6-8mos recovery from 4 different repairs. Pretty much a waste'o 5 bills the ins co. undoubtedly threw on to some buncha other folks future costs eh~~ 



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 05/16/2018 11:04 AM
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Cole

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I used mine way too much, think Linus and his blanket. I never left home without it.

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 05/16/2018 11:15 AM
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Plan B

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hahaha..... I had a brief period I did, simply because it hurt all the time, but the sweating an itching was a pretty good deterent

 

equipeola - yeah, I tried a buddy's post-op custom high end brace (we're about the same size/stature) and that thing was just too much.  I did fine with an off the rack special... prob 50 bucks.  You can find some better ones online for a little more, but I wanted to try them on.... plus when they get all nasty from surfing, I didnt feel bad about chucking it and getting a new one



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 05/16/2018 12:00 PM
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Cole

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Brown's Medical Supply in Melbourne has some decent hinged ACL braces in the $150 range. I pulled mine - from Brown's - out of a box in the garage a few months ago and it was still in good shape.

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 05/16/2018 12:55 PM
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theglide

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I would listen to the advice of a good ortho doctor/surgeon.

Then if surgery, do the recommended PT after and return to normal activity when you get the green light.

Without getting it repaired, these things can nag you for years and lead to other injuries based on compensating movements.

You're young enough to get it done probably without complications.

Set it and forget it!



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Cole

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And at 23 you will heal a hell of a lot faster and maintain muscle mass better than those of us who are getting long in the tooth.

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 05/16/2018 02:35 PM
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Kimo63

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Plenty of people get by fine without ACL repair , it's time to fix it when it bothers you to much to do the fun stuff in life . I can name a dozen good surgeons that can fix it for you , it's a very common surgery that most do extremely wel these days . A couple things to consider is that it takes about 8 months to recover from before you return to sports and remember that your new ACL graft is at its weakest about 3 months after surgery, so don't get out there and test it and wind up blowing it out
 05/18/2018 10:21 AM
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UCF G

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You should look into Prolotherapy/PRP as an alternative to surgery. PRP utilizes injections (blood plama) to "re-injure" the ligaments and stimulates them to heal themselves. My wife broke her back in an accident and has been using PRP to heal the damaged ligaments all without surgery. There's a great specialist here in Orlando that has been working with my wife. Send me a PM and I'll forward you the info for the specialist, if you're interested in a 2nd opinion.
 05/18/2018 10:34 AM
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equipeola

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UCF G, is she (Lovely Wife), still in a healing stage, or is she post op far enough to say to us here; this is verifiably 'successful'? Thanks in advance 



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 05/18/2018 01:15 PM
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Kimo63

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Your ACL is either ripped in half or or part of it is. If it's ripped in half , fix it when it bothers you with surgery . Get an MRI to evaluate this . PRP is protein rich plasma , it may help if it's a partial tear , it is not the standard of care .
 05/19/2018 07:02 AM
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crankit

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Also the ACL cadaver repair isn't permanent, didn't know that when I had mine done, lasted 23 years and had to have a total knee done.

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