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Topic Title: Weather Service is short of funds to pay employees through the end of Sept.
Topic Summary: Two-week furloughs are proposed.
Created On: 06/07/2012 08:35 PM
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 06/07/2012 08:35 PM
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ww

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A short-handed Weather Service isn't a good omen for hurricane season.  Washington Post has the story. 

It makes for a fairly boring news story, but it has a lot of relevance for the National Weather Service's local offices and the wide variety of forecasts they provide.  In Florida, that's Tallahassee, Jacksonville, Tampa Bay Area, Melbourne, Miami, and Key West.

 

 

 06/08/2012 03:52 AM
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jayfrizzo

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$2mm for 5,000 people a day is an average pay of $400/day. Or $100,000/year. 

 

Not a bad gig. 



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 06/08/2012 03:54 AM
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GrabFace

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400 a day to speculate.. Not bad at all

 06/08/2012 04:25 AM
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dingpatch

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Ya, and there is still a "push" to contract out the satellites, and such, and then let the public "PAY" for weather forecasts!

"What hurricane???!!!" "Oh, you have not paid your bill this month."
 06/08/2012 05:53 AM
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ograbac

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Originally posted by: GrabFace

400 a day to speculate.. Not bad at all



Really? There's no way a large majority get paid that much.

 06/08/2012 06:06 AM
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bob3000

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Originally posted by: ograbac
Originally posted by: GrabFace 400 a day to speculate.. Not bad at all

Really? There's no way a large majority get paid that much.
Really, if it's on the innernetwebs... it's true for sure, ogra. esp in grab-troll posts it!

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 06/08/2012 06:13 AM
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Greensleeves

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Rates are probably loaded with health insurance and other overheads the Gov pays.  Not too far out of line especially considering weather people have a couple of degrees. 

Federal agencies have a budget for the year that includes salaries.  It is apparent something went wrong.   

 06/08/2012 06:20 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Those are top notch scientists that produce the charts, models and data that everyone else uses to speculate. There isn't a surf forecaster or weather forecaster out there that doesn't rely on the NWS.

Maybe they should start charging fees for access to their data?
 06/08/2012 06:21 AM
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surferclimber

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Originally posted by: GrabFace 400 a day to speculate.. Not bad at all

 

 

OK I'm gonna earn my $400 right now...

 

huricanes will not occur only between june 1st and nov,   we're on B name May 20ish, hmm what to spend my $400 on perhaps a new thruster

 

Seriously though relevant & informative post/links  THANKS 2 da OP

 



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 06/08/2012 07:04 AM
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GrabFace

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grab troll haha. I like it

 06/08/2012 08:20 AM
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ncsurf

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Originally posted by: ograbac
Originally posted by: GrabFace 400 a day to speculate.. Not bad at all

 

Really? There's no way a large majority get paid that much.

more like a third of that.

 06/08/2012 06:03 PM
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ww

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New Zealand's MetService seems to have been privatized in 1992, but that's a tiny organization compared to NWS, 200 employees vs. at least 5,000. 

NZ's earthquake, and I suppose volcano, monitoring is also done by a privatized organization.  They seem to have handled the Christchurch earthquakes well. 

I suspect there will be proposals to overhaul NWS next year

 06/08/2012 07:01 PM
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scombrid

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My impression is that NWS forecasters are enthusiasts with and education that take pride in putting out they best possible product.  Forecasting our diurnal convection is damn nearr impossible when they've only got soundings at TPA, JAX, MLB, MIA and are trying to extrapolate in between to predict convection driven by mesoscale processes.  Then they've got no mid and upper level data available out over the gulf.  Their local knowledge of lake/sea breeze and boundaries and such is apparent is their



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 06/08/2012 07:15 PM
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SgtHulk

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Originally posted by: scombrid My impression is that NWS forecasters are enthusiasts with and education that take pride in putting out they best possible product.  Forecasting our diurnal convection is damn nearr impossible when they've only got soundings at TPA, JAX, MLB, MIA and are trying to extrapolate in between to predict convection driven by mesoscale processes.  Then they've got no mid and upper level data available out over the gulf.  Their local knowledge of lake/sea breeze and boundaries and such is apparent is their

 

 

wtf did u say?

 06/09/2012 02:59 AM
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scombrid

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I think he said the sheriff is near.

Previous post cut by phone.  Nutshell is that NWS products are very useful and have improved over they years.  The forecasting around Beryl was pretty good.



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 06/09/2012 02:14 PM
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Oceanaddict

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Scombrid... this is the Sheriff is near

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upvZdVK913I



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 06/10/2012 02:50 AM
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 06/10/2012 10:21 AM
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SgtHulk

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bob your posts kill me LOL

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