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RustyTruck

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He sounds credible AF.





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The guy is a lying deep state NeverTrumper plant and a closet Democrat. >>>>>>>> (ok, I don't believe any of that but that is just a warm up of the comments to come.....)

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He's a tough one to discredit, but that won't stop them from trying. Also, the process is unfair, witch hunt, fake news, TDS.

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Sr. Admin Official Set Trump Up for Impeachment, Literally Created Fake Quid Pro Quo on Ukraine Aid
By Josh Manning
Published November 12, 2019 at 7:19pm

House Republicans released an 18-page memo on Tuesday tearing into the impeachment efforts of their Democratic colleagues.
The document is filled with facts and testimony that take a sledgehammer to the left's allegations of a quid pro quo arrangement between President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Buried near the end of the memo is testimony from diplomats Kurt Volker and Bill Taylor that expose a massive betrayal inside the administration designed to set the president of the United States up for impeachment.

The key testimony concerns delayed U.S. security aid to Ukraine.

According to the memo, "the two U.S. diplomats closest the Ukrainian government - Ambassador Volker and Ambassador Taylor - testified that Ukraine did not know about the delay 'until the end of August,' six weeks later [than a July 18 interagency call in which the hold on aid was announced], after it was reported publicly on August 28."
The memo goes on to quote Volker.

"In my view, this hold on security assistance was not significant. I don't believe - in fact, I am quite sure that at least I, Secretary Pompeo, and official representatives of the U.S., never communicated to Ukrainians that [the aid] is being held for a reason. We never had a reason. And I tried to avoid talking to Ukrainians about it for as long as I could until it came out in Politico a month later because I was confident we were going to get it fixed internally."

The importance of that quote and the Politico piece it references cannot be overstated.

Volker, the U.S. special representative for Ukraine until Sept. 27, said that he worked to avoid telling the Ukrainians about the delay. That comment is diametrically opposed to the narrative that House Democrats and the establishment media have been pushing - that Trump was holding security aid hostage until Zelensky publicly announced an investigation of Biden.

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If the Ukrainians didn't learn of the aid delay from Volker or others in the administration, how did they find out? They found out through the Aug. 28 Politico story, titled "Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia."

And where did Politico get its information for that piece? From an anonymous "senior administration official."
A senior administration official leaked to Politico that security aid to Ukraine was being held up by Trump himself.

Again, according to the GOP memo, Volker and Taylor said that Ukraine didn't even know about the delay until the Politico story broke.

That means that until Aug. 28, absolutely no quid pro quo could have existed between Trump and Zelensky involving security aid. And while that's not exactly news, what comes next is.

It's reasonable to presume, based on Volker's testimony, that had the senior administration official not leaked to Politico, Zelensky never would have known about the hold.

Remember, Volker testified that because Ukrainian officials didn't know about the hold on aid, he "was confident we were going to get it fixed internally." In other words, Zelensky wouldn't even know there had been an issue.

Where, then, did the security aid quid pro quo narrative come from? It had to have come from that senior administration official. Without the official's leak, no quid pro quo, real or ginned up, could exist because Ukraine would have remained unaware of any aid issues until the whistleblower's report.

And that report didn't come out until Sept. 26 - 15 days after the administration released the aid.

All of this means that a senior administration official single-handedly created the security aid quid pro quo story for the media to broadcast everywhere. He leaked it to Politico and Politico ran the story two weeks to the day after the so-called whistleblower filed his official complaint.

If all of this sounds familiar, that's because it is the exact play Democrats and the establishment media used to spin up the Russia collusion fraud in 2017.

That time it was Comey leaking to CNN, CNN running the story and then the rest of the media and Democrats breathlessly reporting on the accusation they created. This time it's the unidentified senior administration official leaking to Politico, Politico running the story and then the rest of the media and Democrats breathlessly reporting on the accusation they created.

The game plan is the same, all the way down to a trusted member of the administration being the leaker. The game plan was identical and the end goal was identical - impeachment of a duly elected president whom the establishment loathes. In other words, the objective has always been a soft coup.

Voters, however, aren't going to stand for this, as evidenced by the polling numbers on impeachment since House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff started his secret SCIF hearings.

If Democrats and the establishment media had any sense they would retreat before they're ruined. That, however, is unlikely. Both groups have become monomaniacal, no longer behaving rationally.
Cliché as it sounds, Trump has become their white whale.

When Starbuck warns of Ahab's blind madness in Melville's novel, Ahab says of the whale, "He tasks me; he heaps me; I see in him outrageous strength, with an inscrutable malice sinewing it. That inscrutable thing is chiefly what I hate; and be the white whale agent, or be the white whale principal, I will wreak that hate upon him."

Trump tasks and heaps the left with his tweets, his deafening helicopter press conferences, his sold-out rallies, his blithe accusations of fake news, his disregard for Washington's sacred cows and his refusal to bow to the Democrats' globalist, socialist sensibilities. They see in him a strength and malice they've never faced before. They hate him whether he is using or being used by conservatism and the American spirit. They will wreak their hate upon him.

That hate is consuming them even now, blinding them to the absurdity of their efforts. And their farcical little play is driving voters right into the arms of a waiting Donald J. Trump.

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Recess post: twitler and his $hit stain followers are a disgrace to the American way of life.
 11/13/2019 09:57 AM
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Here's a question for the Trump support dogs: If Zelensky told Trump that the Ukraine had nothing to do with the election interference when he responded to the Crowdstrike "request," would Trump take his word for it like he did with Putin in Helsinki?

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Only if he told Putin he'd have more leeway after the election, or no money until the Ukraine stops investigating his Son!

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 11/13/2019 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

Here's a question for the Trump support dogs: If Zelensky told Trump that the Ukraine had nothing to do with the election interference when he responded to the Crowdstrike "request," would Trump take his word for it like he did with Putin in Helsinki?


Objection...Speculation

(I've just always wanted to do that)





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I don't see how anyone could see this inquiry as anything more than a low budget clown show. Speculation and hearsay dressed up like a pig with makeup and presented as fact. Only a mater of time before the schiff hits the fan and that lying bug fucker gets what's coming to him. Beyond reasonable doubt my ass.
 11/13/2019 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by: Zeus

I don't see how anyone could see this inquiry as anything more than a low budget clown show. Speculation and hearsay dressed up like a pig with makeup and presented as fact. Only a mater of time before the schiff hits the fan and that lying bug fucker gets what's coming to him. Beyond reasonable doubt my ass.



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 11/14/2019 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by: Zeus

I don't see how anyone could see this inquiry as anything more than a low budget clown show. Speculation and hearsay dressed up like a pig with makeup and presented as fact. Only a mater of time before the schiff hits the fan and that lying bug fucker gets what's coming to him. Beyond reasonable doubt my ass.


I kinda agree, but hell, this can all be cleared up if Bolton, Pompeo, Mulvaney, Gooliani and Trump himself sit down and tell us what really happened. I mean, Trump openly asked for help in the phone call and admitted to it, so what's the big deal and why all the subpoena denials? Everyone knows that silence looks bad, so why not put it all in the open so we can move on?


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Answer the question Seuss. Would trump extend the same courtesy to Zelensky that he extended to our enemy Putin? Simple question. And how did Zelensky, who is at war with Russia, interpret a request tied to his ability to repel the Russians. Optional? It's still ongoing. Would Zelensky lie about it to keep Trump happy? Did trump turn out support for the Ukraine's into a request that benefited himself exclusively in an election where his opponent was polling higher? The clown show circus is accurate for some of those members of the house. They are the ones still figuring out the defense of the president that might work. It's hard to do in real time and in light of recent revelations, but they keep going.

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GOP hearing members coming across as the incompetent yes men they are. Did they all take drama together in junior high? Jordan has a few challengers for most absurd combover.

Why would twitler ever meet with zelensky when twitler's boy friend vlad is killing zelensky's people? That would put twitler in a weird position (gross).

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TRUMPEACHED (TRUMP-eached) noun If Trump is impeached, Pence becomes President. Pence pardons Trump and appoints him Vice President. Pence resigns, Trump becomes President and appoints Pence as his Vice President. Liberal heads explode.

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2020....

DONE!

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spankit reposting drivel. minnow swallower replying to his own threads. No wonder they think Jim Jordan (the patron saint of combovers) is the man!


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And Adam schitt and pelosi are credible!!

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 11/13/2019 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by: Greensleeves

spankit reposting drivel. minnow swallower replying to his own threads. No wonder they thing Jim Jordan (the patron saint of combovers) is the man!


Suck on it!



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 11/13/2019 01:59 PM
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Schiff was close to laughing at the GOP dopes. Pelosi is the mastermind that brought this to the American public. twitler looks stupider than ever. "Talk to Rudy!" Ha!!

Hey where's Mulvaney or Bolton? If twtiler didn't do anything wrong he'd want them to talk.

How about the GOP puppets answer that?
 11/13/2019 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by: Greensleeves

Schiff was close to laughing at the GOP dopes. Pelosi is the mastermind that brought this to the American public. twitler looks stupider than ever. "Talk to Rudy!" Ha!!



Hey where's Mulvaney or Bolton? If twtiler didn't do anything wrong he'd want them to talk.



How about the GOP puppets answer that?


Again...suck on it...fool!

The American people aren' t morons like you and your crew!



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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

He sounds credible AF.


Might be true but no first hand knowledge equals heresay in any court
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Originally posted by: cheaterfiveo

Originally posted by: RustyTruck



He sounds credible AF.




Might be true but no first hand knowledge equals heresay in any court


This is an investigation, not court. It's pretty clear what he did, and if the Rs ignore it, then it redefines executive power, not in a good way.
It'll bite them in the ass one day.

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house is prosecutor, senate is judge and jury. checkmate
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The prog commie democraps just dont understand the term 'hearsay'.

Ignorance is bliss I guess.

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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The Senate will let him off, then in 2020 the people will throw him out, and then.. well, karma's a bitch.

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