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Topic Title: Meals on Wheels Funding Eliminated in Twitler Budget Topic Summary: Trump Supporters Scratching Balding Heads on That One Created On: 03/16/2017 09:31 AM |
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- Greensleeves | - 03/16/2017 09:31 AM |
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- Fish Killer | - 03/18/2017 03:34 PM |
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03/16/2017 09:31 AM
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Good job dopes. |
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03/16/2017 09:40 AM
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Man that takes me back to my college days. I did a bulk run every Saturday to a bunch of dirt poor old white folks south of Tallahassee.
Too far out for daily delivery. Good folks at heart, but racist, homophobic, and if any are still alive (doubtful) they would vote trump. Some of them were more excited to talk to me for a half hour than the food. Sad forgotten folks. ------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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03/16/2017 09:41 AM
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Very cool Rusty. |
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03/16/2017 12:16 PM
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Take away their healthcare, poison their environment and bask in the trump glory that comes when you know you have provided these people with the opportunity to lift themselves up by their bootstraps because you have taken away all social safety nets. Trump uber alles.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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03/16/2017 12:22 PM
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It sounds like China!
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03/16/2017 02:37 PM
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It sounds like China! Fck the old and poor, we need more bombs! ------------------------- I was right. |
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03/16/2017 03:07 PM
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Or as obama did; f america and bring in some illegals to boost the child birthrate
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03/16/2017 04:11 PM
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F you cheater, meals on wheels brought hot food to poor elderly people. I delivered it. There was no bloated government bureaucracy, there was no corruption, there was just college kids and retired Christians and hippies putting little tins of hot or frozen food into Styrofoam coolers and taking it to old people who wouldn't get to eat otherwise.
I want to physically assault anyone who's against that. ------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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03/16/2017 05:03 PM
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Heres a thought comrade, use local churches to set up same system and use the local community through that venue. Keep the gubment to the constitution, too easy if you think outa da box
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03/16/2017 05:12 PM
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Wandering rant, , , ,
Somewhat of a good point in regard to sticking to the Constitution. Take education for example, , , , the U.S. Department of Education, on the outside, looks like a good thing; educate them, educate here, educate there, teach everybody the same thing, ya, ya, ya. But, in the end can we really say that we are better educated and better off? Perhaps not. Education on a "national" basis sounds good and it should be but, , , , there is just too much derision between states and localities within each state. Common Core is a good example. But, then again, where does it say anything in the Constitution about education? ------------------------- Dora Hates You |
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03/16/2017 06:57 PM
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Wandering rant, , , , Somewhat of a good point in regard to sticking to the Constitution. Take education for example, , , , the U.S. Department of Education, on the outside, looks like a good thing; educate them, educate here, educate there, teach everybody the same thing, ya, ya, ya. But, in the end can we really say that we are better educated and better off? Perhaps not. Education on a "national" basis sounds good and it should be but, , , , there is just too much derision between states and localities within each state. Common Core is a good example. But, then again, where does it say anything in the Constitution about education? It does sound like it failed you at least. Or you didn't pay attention. ------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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03/17/2017 10:52 AM
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Wandering rant, , , , Somewhat of a good point in regard to sticking to the Constitution. Take education for example, , , , the U.S. Department of Education, on the outside, looks like a good thing; educate them, educate here, educate there, teach everybody the same thing, ya, ya, ya. But, in the end can we really say that we are better educated and better off? Perhaps not. Education on a "national" basis sounds good and it should be but, , , , there is just too much derision between states and localities within each state. Common Core is a good example. But, then again, where does it say anything in the Constitution about education? It is Trump's overall large budget with a general dismissiveness of education, science, job training and healthcare that is the worry. We may not have the best education program in the world, but we do have the best science. We definitely have the strongest military in the world by far and we should shovel more into that?? ------------------------- Replace turf grass with native plants that don't need irrigation and synthetic fertilizers or chemicals that can go into our waterways and ocean |
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03/17/2017 11:17 AM
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I meekly suggest, that one volunteers with the bloated government entitlement program known as "meals on wheels" prior to rendering judgement. Here's how: http://agingmattersbrevard.org/service/meals-on-wheels Donations accepted too. ------------------------- add a signature since I'm here in profile anyway |
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03/16/2017 06:53 PM
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Heres a thought comrade, use local churches to set up same system and use the local community through that venue. Keep the gubment to the constitution, too easy if you think outa da box Like most easy answers from you guys, it doesn't work. Which church, when, how to coordinate, what about people where the church has no money, on and on. What church do you go to? Do they deliver daily meals to the poor? Could they? Would they? To everyone our just church members? Do you contribute? That's not an idea, that's an excuse, a cop out. If you're gonna try to go hard comrade, don't be a wuss. ------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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03/18/2017 03:16 PM
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Heres a thought comrade, use local churches to set up same system and use the local community through that venue. Keep the gubment to the constitution, too easy if you think outa da box Like most easy answers from you guys, it doesn't work. Which church, when, how to coordinate, what about people where the church has no money, on and on. What church do you go to? Do they deliver daily meals to the poor? Could they? Would they? To everyone our just church members? Do you contribute? That's not an idea, that's an excuse, a cop out. If you're gonna try to go hard comrade, don't be a wuss. Yeah we do clothe, feed, counsel and employ needy, also our family has several safehouses for battered women and their kids. Go to one or several local churches, you will be surprised |
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03/17/2017 03:17 AM
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Heres a thought comrade, use local churches to set up same system and use the local community through that venue. Keep the gubment to the constitution, too easy if you think outa da box You are giving Fisk Killer a run for his money on being a complete dumbass. What should one expect from "your kind". ------------------------- I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I noticed it always coincides with their own desires Susan B. Anthony 1896 Impeach Trump |
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03/17/2017 01:18 PM
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Heres a thought comrade, use local churches to set up same system and use the local community through that venue. Keep the gubment to the constitution, too easy if you think outa da box You are giving Fisk Killer a run for his money on being a complete dumbass. What should one expect from "your kind". Actually the complete dumbass here would most definetly be you and Coleslaw! Had any of you POS progs done even ONE CINTILLA of homework yall would have known that in FACT the Government contribution to Meals on Wheels amounts to a paltry 3%! 3% of Meals on Wheels budget comes from Government grants! Do you understand how small an amount that is?!?! Naaaaa....NOT YOU! If the loss of 3% of a budget will tank an organization then it was a POS organization to begin with! Fact! Fool! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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03/16/2017 06:58 PM
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LOL Commiefiveo's got all the answers Hell if Trump physically pulled the plug on his dying kid he'd find a way to defend it. Pucker up Commie- howz it taste up there? ------------------------- When America was "great" |
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03/16/2017 07:09 PM
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And they used to talk about death panels.
I'd laugh at the irony if I wasn't spitting mad at this frothy mix of ignorance and arrogance. How do these people look at themselves in the mirror? ------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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03/16/2017 07:16 PM
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This time they may actually be building those FEMA camps ------------------------- When America was "great" |
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03/16/2017 07:20 PM
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They won't build shit, they can't govern.
------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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03/17/2017 08:34 AM
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http://www.militarytimes.com/a...als-wheels-trump-cuts
"Meals on Wheels serves 500,000 veterans each year. Any cuts to Meals on Wheels funding could cause programs to start waiting lists and cut back on the number of meals served," said Jenny Bertolette, a spokesperson for Meals on Wheels. "This would no doubt effect veteran recipients in states that use those block grants to support Meals on Wheels." Support the Troops indeed. ------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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03/17/2017 09:56 AM
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What a far reaching program. Socialists with heart? |
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03/17/2017 11:24 AM
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"Meals on Wheels Not Showing Results" is Trump's reason for discontinuing funding. WTF! Ask a hungry person who just ate a meal delivered by them if that isn't a result. What an asinine comment by Trump.
------------------------- Replace turf grass with native plants that don't need irrigation and synthetic fertilizers or chemicals that can go into our waterways and ocean |
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03/17/2017 11:38 AM
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There were people on my route who depended on it as their only nutritious meal of the day.
There was an old couple in Tallahassee who would have the table set just waiting for us to come so they could sit down together to eat. They were genuinely excited and grateful to see us come with hot meals. ------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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03/17/2017 01:31 PM
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my father and mother used to deliver meals on wheels until his memory started going and they asked him politely to retire and just enjoy his free time. He is forgetting my name now. I remember how much he enjoyed doing it. Lot of vets involved in that service on both sides. It is a shame the government had to back out of that small fiscal committment. It is just another black feather story reflected upon drumph regardless of their miniscule committment. |
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03/17/2017 01:38 PM
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$248,347 won't buy much Military equipment.
------------------------- "The truth is incontrovertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill |
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03/17/2017 02:57 PM
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Lets be real here- what would Trump know about being poor or hungry? I mean he has absolutely no reference point for it at all. It is about as real to him as the story of Peter Pan would be to us- as in a fairy tale. FishKommy for some reason keeps defending this guy- who in this instance has betrayed 2 facets of his life- southern & poor and (alleged) Christian values of helping your fellow human in need.. ------------------------- When America was "great" |
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03/17/2017 03:11 PM
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and (alleged) Christian values of helping your fellow human in need.. As ALL dumbasses expose their simple ignorance of ANYTHING, here you again show complete dumbassery on knowledge of what Christ would do or what he would say. Jesus had directives for INDIVIDUALS....not governments. Just like the subtle difference between ILLEGAL Immigrant and LEGAL Immigrant befuddles you I can see that you have the same problem with individuals and governments! FOOL! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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03/17/2017 03:15 PM
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The cost is a drop in the ocean, that's why it's so damn black hearted. This is intentional punishment of the poor.
There is a price to pay for that. ------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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03/17/2017 04:43 PM
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The cost is a drop in the ocean, that's why it's so damn black hearted. This is intentional punishment of the poor. There is a price to pay for that. Actually Christ wants everyone to be good stewards of money. By your same train of thought (bogus) yes the cost is a drop in the ocean.......OF DEBT! 19.9 TRILLION dollars of debt! FOOL! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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03/17/2017 04:45 PM
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The cost is a drop in the ocean, that's why it's so damn black hearted. This is intentional punishment of the poor. There is a price to pay for that. Actually Christ wants everyone to be good stewards of money. By your same train of thought (bogus) yes the cost is a drop in the ocean.......OF DEBT! You are talking about hungry people? ------------------------- I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I noticed it always coincides with their own desires Susan B. Anthony 1896 Impeach Trump |
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03/17/2017 04:46 PM
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I'm talking about 19.9 trillion dollars of debt!~
Come on....what do you (the fool) think Jesus would say about 19.9 TRILLION dollars of debt? ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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03/17/2017 04:56 PM
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I'm talking about 19.9 trillion dollars of debt!~ Come on....what do you (the fool) think Jesus would say about 19.9 TRILLION dollars of debt? This. This sums up so much. Thank you Christian. ------------------------- I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I noticed it always coincides with their own desires Susan B. Anthony 1896 Impeach Trump |
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03/17/2017 05:01 PM
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I'm talking about 19.9 trillion dollars of debt!~ Come on....what do you (the fool) think Jesus would say about 19.9 TRILLION dollars of debt? This. This sums up so much. Thank you Christian. You don't get to lecture about 'Christian values' while you support killing babies. ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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03/17/2017 05:03 PM
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I'm talking about 19.9 trillion dollars of debt!~ Come on....what do you (the fool) think Jesus would say about 19.9 TRILLION dollars of debt? This. This sums up so much. Thank you Christian. You don't get to lecture about 'Christian values' while you support killing babies. And neither do you. ------------------------- I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I noticed it always coincides with their own desires Susan B. Anthony 1896 Impeach Trump |
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03/17/2017 05:07 PM
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Matt Walsh: You don't get to lecture about 'Christian values' while you support killing babies
By Matt Walsh You'd think by now people would know to never believe a single word the Left says about Trump (or about anything) without first verifying. It doesn't matter what the story is. If they tell you Trump ate pancakes for breakfast, you should just assume he had waffles until evidence proves otherwise. That's how blatant and pervasive the lying has become. We were treated to another example of this yesterday when the President released his budget. Immediately, the Left went into Apocalyptic Outrage Mode because it cuts a number of programs, agencies, and commissions that mostly exist just to provide paychecks to useless bureaucrats. It also slashes funding to "the arts" and PBS, which provoked a lot of weeping and wailing about the impending unemployment crisis on Sesame Street. Even on this issue, as unimportant as it is, the Left is lying. Sesame Street is on HBO now. So if you're really concerned about the continued employment of Big Bird, you need not worry. As for cutting "arts" funding, I think I speak for the average American when I yawn dismissively, roll my eyes, and proceed to not care in the slightest. All of this pales in comparison, however, to the outrage over the fact that Trump is planning to "end Meals on Wheels," thus directly causing the death and starvation of our nation's senior citizens. Social media exploded, and is still exploding, with millions of tweets and lengthy Facebook diatribes castigating Trump and the evil Republicans for defunding the program. Dozens of articles were written with headlines like "Trump Just Announced Plan to End 'Meals on Wheels' for Seniors," which, if you didn't know any better, would make you think Trump just announced a plan to end Meals on Wheels for seniors. The only problem with all of this is that it's total nonsense. Trump did not end Meals on Wheels. He didn't do anything close to ending Meals on Wheels. His budget doesn't mention Meals on Wheels. Instead, his budget cuts a program called the Community Development Block Grant. This program, which is often abused, partially funds Meals on Wheels. But the funds it gets from the CDBG are small in comparison to the funds it gets from sources like the Older Americans Act, which remains unscathed by Trump's budget. Meals on Wheels also subsists largely on private donations. So, it's not close to accurate to say that Meals on Wheels is "ended." It's not even accurate to say that government funding of Meals on Wheels is ended. Rather, one single source of government funding to the program is ended, while may other sources, including private ones, will continue. Yet even as the real story surfaces - a story anyone could have figured out for themselves simply by reading the budget proposal - the Left continues to wring its hands and shake its finger at conservatives who have so far refused to weep openly about a partial cut to a charitable program that's only partially funded by the government. As is always the case when the subject of entitlements arises, suddenly the godless Left has decided that the government must follow a Biblical mandate to help the poor, and anyone who disagrees with them is a "bad Christian." Just imagine how they'd react if Trump actually cut entitlement spending, instead of just trimming around the edges like this. Twitter has been full of Leftists insisting that Jesus would support funding for Meals on Wheels, therefore we Christians have a duty to oppose Trump's plan. I have been personally lectured dozens of times over the past 24 hours about my lack of Christian charity and my refusal to abide by Biblical teachings on this subject. It's fascinating that the very people who normally dismiss the Bible as a book of primitive fairy tales will suddenly appeal to its authority on an issue like entitlement spending (or refugees or immigration). There are two problems with the Left using the Bible as a cudgel on this issue. First of all, Jesus does not endorse nor command that we support the notion of a massive, out of control Welfare State. When He speaks of helping the poor - and He does speak of it often - notice how the exhortations are phrased. Here are just a few examples: "Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you." - Matthew 5:42 "For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me." - Matthew 25:35 "And the King will answer them, 'Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me." - Matthew 25:40 "Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." - Luke 12:33 Take note of two words that keep appearing. Namely, "you" and "give." You need to give. You. Personally. Physically. Of your own free will and volition. Christ is not outlining a budget proposal or advocating for a certain form of government. He did not say, "I was hungry and you lobbied your political representative to write a piece of legislation that will appropriate money from your neighbor and, after a portion of it is siphoned off for other purposes, and much of it is wasted on fraud and abuse, a certain small percentage was used to fund programs that would eventually give me food." The New Testament would be, like, 600 pages longer if this is how Christ approached things. Luckily, He was far more direct. What He actually said was simple: "I was hungry and you gave me food." As in, you saw a hungry person and right there on the spot gave him food. Or, knowing that there are a lot of hungry people in your community, you, through your own efforts, took your own money and gave it to charities that help the poor in your neighborhood. That is what the Bible tells us to do. And do it we must. You can only call a Christian a hypocrite if he does not help the poor with his own time and money. His position on entitlement spending is irrelevant. If he supports entitlements but does not help the poor on his own, he is ignoring Christ's commands and exposing himself as a hypocrite. If he disagrees with entitlements but uses his own money to help the poor, he is obeying the commands and acting consistently and compassionately. Now, why did Christ tell us to approach the poor in this direct and personal way, rather than instructing us to set up elaborate welfare schemes. Well, I think this passage gives us a hint: "Jesus looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the offering box, and he saw a poor widow put in two small copper coins. And he said, "Truly, I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all of them. For they all contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on." - Luke 21: 1 If the goal of Biblical charity were simply to get as much money into the hands of the poor as possible, or to treat poverty like a disease that must be eradicated systematically, then Jesus would not put forth this example as a model for us. Practically speaking, that poor widow achieved nothing. Two copper coins won't get you much, even in those days. But it's not about the money, primarily. It's about the love that went into it. What Christ is telling us is that we must love one another. And when you love someone, you give to them. You give of yourself, not of someone else. You give your own money, not your neighbor's. Personal charity is an act of love. Helping at a soup kitchen is an act of love. Giving a hot meal to a homeless man is an act of love. Volunteering for Meals on Wheels is an act of love. But sitting back and letting the government take care of it with other people's money is not an act of love. It's not an act at all. It's nothing. You have not fulfilled your moral obligation to give to the poor by cooperating with the government's various entitlement schemes. You've done nothing. If that's all the "charity" you perform, you perform no charity. This is what it comes down to: if every person whining about these minor cuts to Meals on Wheels were to go online and donate next month's Starbucks allowance to the organization, there wouldn't be an issue. Here's the link, by the way. Put your money where your mouth is. Don't tell me you're concerned about Meals on Wheels if you aren't willing to contribute to it personally. And that's what Jesus wants you to do: contribute personally. I'm not in favor of letting poor people starve. I'm also not in favor of entitlement programs that are rife with abuse, foster dependence on government, and have done nothing to actually minimize the poverty rate. I'm in favor of individuals helping their fellow citizens, as Christ instructed. Second, if the government is supposed to follow a Biblical mandate to give to the poor, is that where its Biblical responsibilities end? If so, why? It seems to me that if we are (inaccurately) using Christ's teachings and examples to support government funding of Meals on Wheels, we should look through the rest of the Book to see what else may apply. What about this from Matthew: "He said to them, "Have you not read that He Who made them in the first place made them man and woman? It says, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will live with his wife. The two will become one.' So they are no longer two but one. Let no man divide what God has put together." Wow. Christ kind of hits three liberal birds with one stone there, doesn't He? If we're following the "government should do what Jesus said" model, it looks like we have to outlaw gay marriage ("man and wife"), transgender protections ("he made them man and woman"), and even divorce ("let no man divide what God has put together"). And what about this from Luke: And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the baby leaped in her womb. Note that the being in the womb is called a "baby, and that the baby is said to have consciousness. Also note that Jesus Christ Himself came into this world as an unborn baby, which seems to confirm the sanctity of life in the womb. And if that isn't enough, there's this: "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you." - Jeremiah 1:5 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him." - Genesis 1:27 "For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb." - Psalm 139 Well, there goes abortion. The Bible couldn't be any clearer about the value and dignity of unborn life, could it? I could go on, obviously. The Bible is chock-full of teachings that the Left rejects. And if you proposed that the government model itself after these teachings, the very people now pulling the "Christian" card for entitlements would suddenly accuse you of advocating for a theocracy. Of course, you might argue that the reverse is true. Why am I proposing "Christian laws" with regards to abortion and marriage but not when it comes to welfare? Well, I'll tell you: First, as I've explained, the Welfare State isn't necessarily in keeping with Christian teaching. Second, feeding the poor is something I can and should do myself. I am not, however, capable of preventing women from killing their unborn children. The government must step in. Third, the "Christian teachings" I want the government to follow are universal and embedded in Natural Law. You don't have to be a Christian to believe that it's wrong to crush a baby's skull, nor do you have to be a Christian to recognize that marriage and the family are the foundations of human society and should be protected. I am not actually advocating for a theocracy. Ironically, it's the Left doing that. But, as we've seen, in a very limited and inconsistent way. ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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03/17/2017 05:05 PM
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Get back on you donkey fatass and ride off into the sun set like a Christian lard ass. Don't for get that fingerlicking good on your way.
------------------------- I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I noticed it always coincides with their own desires Susan B. Anthony 1896 Impeach Trump |
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03/17/2017 05:17 PM
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You can stick that BS article up you FAKE Christian a$$
------------------------- I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I noticed it always coincides with their own desires Susan B. Anthony 1896 Impeach Trump |
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03/17/2017 05:21 PM
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You can stick that BS article up you FAKE Christian a$$ "This is what it comes down to: if every person whining about these minor cuts to Meals on Wheels were to go online and donate next month's Starbucks allowance to the organization, there wouldn't be an issue. Here's the link, by the way. Put your money where your mouth is. Don't tell me you're concerned about Meals on Wheels if you aren't willing to contribute to it personally. And that's what Jesus wants you to do: contribute personally." ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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03/17/2017 05:23 PM
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I'll be waiting to see YOUR posted copy of your donation ticket from Meals on Wheels!
Till then STFU! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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03/17/2017 05:27 PM
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Sorry, fat ass you will never know what I do for the community that I live in. I am damn sure it is more than your fatass has ever done. With your hateful eyes no one would deserve help except for you, and good fucking luck with that. You are a shitty human being.
------------------------- I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I noticed it always coincides with their own desires Susan B. Anthony 1896 Impeach Trump |
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03/18/2017 08:54 AM
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Sorry, fat ass you will never know what I do for the community that I live in. I am damn sure it is more than your fatass has ever done. With your hateful eyes no one would deserve help except for you, and good fucking luck with that. You are a shitty human being. You do NOTHING....you're a leach! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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03/18/2017 02:48 PM
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Sorry, fat ass you will never know what I do for the community that I live in. I am damn sure it is more than your fatass has ever done. With your hateful eyes no one would deserve help except for you, and good fucking luck with that. You are a shitty human being. You do NOTHING....you're a leach! Bahahahahahaha . Go look in the mirror if you can get up from your bucket of chicken and Fox news, Chubby. Take a long look in a mirror if you can find one big enough to see all of you. You will find a leach. You haven't had a legit job in a very long time. Suck that teat. ------------------------- I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I noticed it always coincides with their own desires Susan B. Anthony 1896 Impeach Trump |
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03/18/2017 03:34 PM
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Sorry, fat ass you will never know what I do for the community that I live in. I am damn sure it is more than your fatass has ever done. With your hateful eyes no one would deserve help except for you, and good fucking luck with that. You are a shitty human being. You do NOTHING....you're a leach! Bahahahahahaha . Go look in the mirror if you can get up from your bucket of chicken and Fox news, Chubby. Take a long look in a mirror if you can find one big enough to see all of you. You will find a leach. You haven't had a legit job in a very long time. Suck that teat. You obviously know absolutely nothing about me or how I make money. I'm retired but if you think I don't make money every single day you are even MORE of a moron than even I think! My bet is that I MAKE more money my way than you do...monthly! Oh...and I take from NO ONE! Unlike you. Fool! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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03/18/2017 04:34 PM
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Show of hands on which one's most useless: Mullet Molester, bleater .05 or pigblo? Bet they hate surfers for autism, surfriders beach and habitats cleanups, oyster restoration efforts as well
America wastes 40% of its food daily. I just pray to God and our lord jesus that you sik, condescending, soul less heartless chumpf scum dirts have shit happen to you. What has happened to MANY honest hardworking folks in my country, thru no fault of their own. An accident, an illness, a layoff. Theres no safety net when you're down yall. Then see how contemptuous you are, you utter maggots. I curse and damn and condemn all you chumpf dirts to eternal fire. Oh yeah, and where i can, deliver a few backfists to the head of you losers ------------------------- It's a democratic hoax Edited: 03/18/2017 at 07:22 PM by nukeh2o |
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03/18/2017 05:07 PM
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I just pray to God and our lord jesus..... Soooooo...you're praying to essentially the same exact entity. Moron! "Philip said to Jesus, "Lord, show us the Father. That is all we need." Jesus answered, "Philip, I have been with you for a long time. So you should know me. The person that has seen me has seen the Father too. So why do you say, 'Show us the Father'? Do you truly believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The things I have told you don't come from me. The Father lives in me, and he is doing his own work. Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me. Or believe because of the miracles I have done."" ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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03/18/2017 06:14 PM
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Show of hands on which one's most useless: Mullet Molester, bleater .05 or pigblo? Bet they hate surfers for autism, surfriders beach and habitats cleanups, oyster restoration efforts as well America wastes 40% of its food daily. I just pray to God and our lord jesus that you sik, condescending, soul less heartless chumpf scum dirts have happen to you. What has happened to MANY honest hardworking folks in my country, thru no fault of their own.An accident, an illness, a layoff. Theres no safety net when you're down yall. Then see how contemptuous you are, you utter maggots. I curse and damn and condemn all you chumpf dirts to eternal fire. Oh yeah, and where i can, deliver a few backfists to the head of you losers You are like a dog that returns to its vomit, slurp it up junior |
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03/17/2017 05:47 PM
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Jesus hates FK.
------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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03/17/2017 08:10 PM
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LOL at FakeKhristian Kommy trying tell everyone how Jesus would think. Oh man that is rich! ------------------------- When America was "great" |
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03/18/2017 08:56 AM
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LOL at FakeKhristian Kommy trying tell everyone how Jesus would think. Oh man that is rich! I don't have to tell anyone...how he thinks is in His Word....read it some time! Oh wait.....like Coleslaw you don't read so well. You could have gleaned how Jesus thinks from the article above...but nope....you played the 'moron card'! Well played....yes you are a moron! Fool! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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03/18/2017 12:53 PM
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Whoops sorry FishKommy- I didnt realize you had read the Book of Trump vs Meals on Wheels and I hadnt.. thats the one that outlines in detail how Jesus of Nazareth felt on this whole issue right? my bad! While we are on the subject, can you enlighten us as to Christ's opinions on Stand Up Paddleboards crowding up the lineup? ------------------------- When America was "great" |
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03/18/2017 07:03 PM
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there sure is vomit here,
but unlike from dog, this vomit is marked with an unmistakably smelly signature. ------------------------- "The truth is incontrovertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill |
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03/18/2017 07:31 PM
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Bleater eats chumpf turds? Slurps Sardine Slayuhs red herring? They graze on chumpf scum gibbon poop food waste?
Nope, Guppy King, not the same entity you worship. Yours wears rodents on its head, glows red in the dark. and blub blub blub....... ------------------------- It's a democratic hoax |
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03/18/2017 07:33 PM
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Somebody should get that fishy guy a bible. The Jesus that he's pushing as his savior has very little resemblance to the asylum seeking immigrant at the sermon on the mount.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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03/19/2017 10:49 AM
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Somebody should get that fishy guy a bible. The Jesus that he's pushing as his savior has very little resemblance to the asylum seeking immigrant at the sermon on the mount. Then you better start explaining this: "Christ Came to Fulfill the Law 17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven." ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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03/19/2017 03:21 AM
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"also our family has several safehouses for battered women and their kids. " They must be proud of the Pussy Grabber in that case- excellent role model. ------------------------- When America was "great" |
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04/07/2017 04:56 PM
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"also our family has several safehouses for battered women and their kids. " They must be proud of the Pussy Grabber in that case- excellent role model. So what do you do for our community? Sell used joints, dirty needles? Just another asswipe lib who is flaming out. |
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04/07/2017 07:17 PM
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Well for one, it is my civic duty to keep pointing out the dumb stuff guys like you say and support..
For example Since you are OK with Trump's unannounced pussy grabbing- if you were to meet your hero, and he walked right up to your wife and grabbed her by the pussy, I expect you would stand there with a big dumb smile on your face and say NICe to MEET yoo Meester Prezideent.. That's your boy! ------------------------- When America was "great" Edited: 04/08/2017 at 06:18 PM by fishkller |
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04/09/2017 01:54 PM
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Well for one, it is my civic duty to keep pointing out the dumb stuff guys like you say and support.. For example Since you are OK with Trump's unannounced pussy grabbing- if you were to meet your hero, and he walked right up to your wife and grabbed her by the pussy, I expect you would stand there with a big dumb smile on your face and say NICe to MEET yoo Meester Prezideent.. That's your boy! Dont get much do ya champ? Got pussy on the lips and brain |
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04/09/2017 05:19 PM
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Republicucks
------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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